Putting pulse coil and igniter on older bike

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19 Aug 2007 21:03 #165002 by prhladio
Hi everyone. I have a 1980 KZ650E LTD and will probably soon convert to electronic ignition with the DYna S. I was wondering though, could I take a pulse coil and igniter from a newer bike and make it work on mine?

Thanks for any info. You don't know how much i have learned from this site since I got this bike last fall.

1980 KZ650E1 LTD - WG coil mod, converted to electronic ignition, loudhvx home made ignitor using HEI ignition parts

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20 Aug 2007 06:24 #165080 by rstnick
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Yes you can.

Check out the link in my signature: KZ1000 electronic Ign.

If you use one out of a later model 650 or 750, you don't have to make the backing plate smaller like I had to.

Rob
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1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, Progressive Suspension, braced swingarm, ZRX shocks, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R - Wife's
2005 z750s
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20 Aug 2007 06:34 #165084 by flht1997
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yup. i used stock kawasaki stuff i pieced together off ebay with 750 pick-up, ignitor and accel coils, i got everything for about half of the dyna kit. it takes a bit to wire it all up, but it works perfect.

Matt Milwaukee, WI
75' KZ400, (5) 78' KZ400, 76' KZ 750, 78' KZ650
78'CB750F, 78' CB550K
89' BMW R100RT
05' H-D Electra Glide
06' KLR650
Do it right or don't bother doing it at all.

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20 Aug 2007 07:08 #165092 by OKC_Kent
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I did it to mine too. Remember you will need the electronic models' advancer unit too, or at least the lobe part to slip on your points model advancer. I have 550 pulse coils, and 750 igniter, a lobe off a 650.

The hardest part for me was studying a wiring diagram from an electronic model bike to make sure I had everything wired right, but it's not a big deal overall. Probably paid $70 for everything but you can get the parts cheaper on ebay.

Oklahoma City, OK
78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles

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20 Aug 2007 08:02 #165108 by loudhvx
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You canmake the ignitor yourself if you want:
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/GPZgmHEImod.html

But you still need the pickups and the rotor for the advancer.

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20 Aug 2007 13:25 #165198 by flht1997
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i was all ready to make one of your GM hei ignitors Lou, but it just happened to look at ebay one more time and someone had a ignitor with a 9.95 buy it now. when it goes i will make one of yours.
is the dyna-s really any better than the kawasaki stuff? cause it seems pretty pricey for just an ignition system

Matt Milwaukee, WI
75' KZ400, (5) 78' KZ400, 76' KZ 750, 78' KZ650
78'CB750F, 78' CB550K
89' BMW R100RT
05' H-D Electra Glide
06' KLR650
Do it right or don't bother doing it at all.

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20 Aug 2007 13:34 #165201 by prhladio
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Thanks for the info. I have one more question though.
When the pulse coil goes on, do you set the timing similar to setting up a Dyna or is there no adjustment at all?

1980 KZ650E1 LTD - WG coil mod, converted to electronic ignition, loudhvx home made ignitor using HEI ignition parts

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20 Aug 2007 13:42 #165206 by flht1997
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when i put mine on there is/was no adjustment the screw hole are not slotted like the points plate, it just screwed on. when i checked the timing it was pointing at the "F" mark at idle and went to the other line when i revved it to 2500 rpms, so i called it good and put the cover on. i know some of the other early 80's kawi' stuff had electronic advance also which would add another element to get working. i just took my time on ebay and eventually every thing came cheap. sometimes ignitors will go for 100 dollars and the next time they dont get a bid. it is weird.

Matt Milwaukee, WI
75' KZ400, (5) 78' KZ400, 76' KZ 750, 78' KZ650
78'CB750F, 78' CB550K
89' BMW R100RT
05' H-D Electra Glide
06' KLR650
Do it right or don't bother doing it at all.

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20 Aug 2007 17:32 #165255 by steell
flht1997 wrote:

i was all ready to make one of your GM hei ignitors Lou, but it just happened to look at ebay one more time and someone had a ignitor with a 9.95 buy it now. when it goes i will make one of yours.
is the dyna-s really any better than the kawasaki stuff? cause it seems pretty pricey for just an ignition system


Lou has posted previously that in his opinion the stock KZ electronic ignition is better, and I agree.

KD9JUR

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20 Aug 2007 20:27 #165296 by prhladio
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I just scored a 650 pickup for $25! Hopefully it will come with the cam lobe to trigger the coils. Looks like I'm going to build that igniter unless ebay has a steal.

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20 Aug 2007 20:31 #165298 by prhladio
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I just scored a 650 pickup for $25! Hopefully it will come with the cam lobe to trigger the coils. Looks like I'm going to build that igniter unless ebay has a steal.

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