Replacement CV diaphragms

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31 Oct 2023 07:58 #891147 by slmjim+Z1BEBE
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Has anyone used replacement diaphragms from here?

www.carburetordiaphragms.com/

Were they acceptable?

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31 Oct 2023 08:43 #891148 by Cra-z1
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I have use diaphragms from JBM several times. These are a tight fit in the groove of the slide after you remove the plastic retainers.

jbmindustries.com/Dimensions.html

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31 Oct 2023 08:44 #891149 by Nessism
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The OEM Mikuni diaphragms are made from non-stretch rubber coated fabric, and in my limited experience, they are not easily removed from the slide without first cutting off the plastic retaining ring.  Keihin diaphragms, on the other hand, are stretchy rubber, so you may have better luck in removing those.  I suspect all of these replacement parts are stretchy rubber, not fabric.  Regarding ease of replacement, good luck, particularly with the Mikuni parts.

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31 Oct 2023 09:31 - 31 Oct 2023 09:34 #891151 by Rolf1976_KZ900
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I have used similar on BS36 carbs they have worked fine for 3 years.I have not opened the lids to take a look at them since the bike still runs great. I bought them dirt cheap from ebay.
It is a little difficult to install them .I also have done some quality test on some pieces from one i torn on first attemt  to install them. I placed the pieces in a bottle with ethanolmixed gasoline to see if they swelled or got distorted.The pieces are now after 3 years still in good shape.I made an writeup how to install then on yamaha forum i can post the writeup here if you want. The JBM at least for the fj1200 has a thick rubber ring that will inhibit the slide to rise full travel so you cant get full throttle open slide. I was a little concerned that the bike would be
jerky to ride since there are only rubber with no fabric inside,but bike runs smooth both on low and high revs and accelerate smoth.
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31 Oct 2023 09:54 #891152 by Nessism
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I have used similar on BS36 carbs they have worked fine for 3 years.I have not opened the lids to take a look at them since the bike still runs great. I bought them dirt cheap from ebay.
It is a little difficult to install them .I also have done some quality test on some pieces from one i torn on first attemt  to install them. I placed the pieces in a bottle with ethanolmixed gasoline to see if they swelled or got distorted.The pieces are now after 3 years still in good shape.I made an writeup how to install then on yamaha forum i can post the writeup here if you want. The JBM at least for the fj1200 has a thick rubber ring that will inhibit the slide to rise full travel so you cant get full throttle open slide. I was a little concerned that the bike would be
jerky to ride since there are only rubber with no fabric inside,but bike runs smooth both on low and high revs and accelerate smoth.
Yes, please post your tutorial...or at least a link.  I'm interested in learning how you removed the diaphragm, and installed the new one.

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31 Oct 2023 10:00 #891153 by Rolf1976_KZ900
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Okay i will post how i did it just have to find it

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31 Oct 2023 10:39 #891157 by Warren3200gt
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 Regarding ease of replacement, good luck, particularly with the Mikuni parts.
If your not particularly in a rush, they are not the most responsive, but have genuine parts try here. 
nrp-carbs.co.uk/kawasaki_carburettor_diaphragms.htm


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31 Oct 2023 10:43 #891158 by Wookie58
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Price doesn't look unreasonable given it includes fitting

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31 Oct 2023 11:55 - 31 Oct 2023 12:07 #891162 by Rolf1976_KZ900
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Well here is how i did mine not the best tutorial ,but it can be helpful and it is not hard to do.
Last edit: 31 Oct 2023 12:07 by Rolf1976_KZ900.
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31 Oct 2023 12:10 #891164 by Wookie58
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Thanks Rolf, some excellent "outside the box" thinking to get the job done

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31 Oct 2023 16:45 #891172 by Nessism
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I've had some success by bending up the lip on the slide where it crimps down on the top plastic ring.  The aluminum is work hardened, and doesn't bend easily, or without some damage.  It is possible to slowly work the metal enough to get the ring off, though, at which time you can put the new diaphragm on, and then crimp down what's left of the lip to secure the ring.  Get it wrong, and you can forget about doing it again, because the lip will just crumble if you try to bend it again.  

I also did some slides where I machined a collar so to speak, using a lathe, to hold down the top plastic ring.  I cut a groove on the ID of the slide, and used high strength epoxy to hold it in place.  I've got some photos...somewhere.  It took a goodly bit of lathe work, and I don't recommend it if you can purchase a good used slide instead.
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