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30 Apr 2017 09:15 #760752 by KZB2 650
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Over the years I've accumulated alot of flat heads but still seem to never grab one that fits those jets or drain screws just right......

One of these days I'm gonna spend a little time and grind up a few..... have read a number of you guys suggesting that lately and you've talked me into it.:blush:

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.

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30 Apr 2017 09:55 #760759 by loudhvx
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I've often wondered if a set of driver bits for gunsmithing would be better for handling jets.

Brownells probably has something perfect, but expensive.
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30 Apr 2017 10:38 #760765 by 9er rider
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O have the magic kind! When I look for a jis philups they all turn flat head, When I want flat head they all turn jis philips. I hate it when that happens.

76 kz 900 1075 76 kz 900 a4 78 kz 1000 ltd
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30 Apr 2017 12:42 #760781 by davido
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Mine are all left handed,which is a p.i.t.a. as Im right handed!

www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build
CB550 (1978)
CB500/4 (1972)*
KZ1000CSR (1981)
XT 600E (1999)
TDM900 (2003)
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30 Apr 2017 15:08 #760788 by TexasKZ
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Yes, Brownell's and other precision tool sellers sell properly ground straight-blade screwdrivers. If you have a decent bench grinder, it is not hard to modify a tapered one, as long as what you need is a s slim as the narrowest part of the taper.
Once you have tackled a slightly stubborn screw with a proper tool, you will never go back.

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1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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30 Apr 2017 15:27 #760791 by Nessism
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I've got a few screwdrivers ground specifically for jet and pilot screw removal. When my Harbor Freight bench grinder died I sprung a little more and got a nice Jet 6" and count it one of my better purchases. When grinding it's critical to keep the temp down or the metal will turn soft. A cup of water near by will do the trick but if you grind too much the hard outer layer will all be removed.
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30 Apr 2017 16:14 - 30 Apr 2017 16:22 #760799 by 650ed
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For slotted screws I found the PB Swiss screwdrivers to work exceedingly well. Their tips are parallel ground and have the sharp corners removed. I have a couple that I use primarily for gunsmith tasks; mine are a little older and are of the 7100 series before they began gold plating the shafts, but I'm certain their newer series 100 models are made just as well. Ed

www.shop.pbtools.us/PB-100-Screwdrivers-...parallel-tip_c55.htm


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01 May 2017 06:14 #760874 by jdvorchak
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Look no further for a set of screwdrivers that not only fit the jets on Mikuni and Keihin perfectly but also includes #0 #1 #2 and #3 phillips that are actually JIS and fit every screw on your bike.

I have 3 of these sets spread around my rather large garage so I always have a set close.

www.harborfreight.com/32-piece-screwdriver-set-90764.html

I bought all 3 when they were on sale for about $6. I bought my first set about 10 years ago and it's still my go to set.

Don't fix it until it's broken.
John

83 KZ550M1
83 KZ1100LTD

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01 May 2017 09:38 #760905 by loudhvx
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jdvorchak wrote: ... includes #0 #1 #2 and #3 phillips that are actually JIS and fit every screw on your bike.


How can they be Philips and JIS ?

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01 May 2017 11:22 - 01 May 2017 11:25 #760910 by 650ed
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loudhvx wrote:

jdvorchak wrote: ... includes #0 #1 #2 and #3 phillips that are actually JIS and fit every screw on your bike.


How can they be Philips and JIS ?


Good question. They can be either Phillip or JIS, bit not both. The dimensions of the two types are different as can be seen in the diagram below. Notice the Phillips has the 19 degree point at the end. That point prevents them from seating properly in JIS screws and causes them to cam out. Ed


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01 May 2017 11:52 #760917 by KZB2 650
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Thinking he means the inserts ....... I have a set from Ace of inserts #1-#3s that are ground flat like you show Ed and they fit great ...... maybe not true JIS but act like them since they are ground flat. Right Ed ?

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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01 May 2017 12:29 #760921 by 650ed
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KZB2 650 wrote: Thinking he means the inserts ....... I have a set from Ace of inserts #1-#3s that are ground flat like you show Ed and they fit great ...... maybe not true JIS but act like them since they are ground flat. Right Ed ?


Yes. If they do not have the points on them they should work fine. I have a set of what were originally Phillips screwdriver tips from which I ground off the points, and they fit as well as the genuine JIS tips I have. Image below shows how well my modified #3 tip fits. Ed


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