ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

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08 Sep 2023 13:51 #889179 by Injected
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135 pounds heavier than a GPZ1000 with only a 10 HP advantage, power to weight ratio only 11% above that of a GPZ750.

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08 Sep 2023 15:01 #889181 by sf4t7
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I agree with TexasKZ.  If you convert to chain on the right side, you can probably avoid having to re-engineer the rear brake setup and leave it where it is.  

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08 Sep 2023 17:23 - 08 Sep 2023 17:25 #889184 by Wookie58
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I agree with TexasKZ.  If you convert to chain on the right side, you can probably avoid having to re-engineer the rear brake setup and leave it where it is.  Scotty
And here lies the biggest challenge which is why there aren't too many chain Drive 1300's out there. Regardless of whether you go left or right you will need a bevel gear set up and jack shaft at the back of the motor. On the 1300 the final drive bevel is part of the cluster inside the main casing and the output shaft doesn't exit the main casings so there is nothing to attach a sprocket to 

 
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08 Sep 2023 17:50 #889185 by TexasKZ
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Well that is a bite in the hienie.

On the other hand, the VMax seems to get along just fine with a shaft.

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08 Sep 2023 18:26 #889187 by Kelly E
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Well that is a bite in the hienie.

On the other hand, the VMax seems to get along just fine with a shaft.




So does the ZG 1000 Concours.

 

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09 Sep 2023 08:30 #889191 by TexasKZ
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Well that is a bite in the hienie.

On the other hand, the VMax seems to get along just fine with a shaft.




So does the ZG 1000 Concours.


 
Yup. I put quite a few miles on one of those. Super reliable. Lots of good memories.

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29 Sep 2023 11:17 #889892 by Youngblood
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Thanks for all your input I have found USD front suspension that will fit, swingarm and wheels, back tyre just need to find front tyre to match. I have a few ideas about the chain drive its the weight I'm trying to reduce, back end and wheels they are just to heavy. The whole bike is heavy needs to go on a diet.
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29 Sep 2023 17:10 - 29 Sep 2023 18:34 #889903 by cb900f
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135 pounds heavier than a GPZ1000 with only a 10 HP advantage, power to weight ratio only 11% above that of a GPZ750.

 
I think it was less than 10 hp difference (130 for the ZG1300 vs 124 for the GPZ1000) and once the shaft drive robs 20% of that, the HP to the wheel would be less than a GPZ1000.
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29 Sep 2023 23:51 #889909 by Wookie58
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Thanks for all your input I have found USD front suspension that will fit, swingarm and wheels, back tyre just need to find front tyre to match. I have a few ideas about the chain drive its the weight I'm trying to reduce, back end and wheels they are just to heavy. The whole bike is heavy needs to go on a diet.
Looking forward to seeing ingenuity at work, good luck 

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30 Sep 2023 07:38 #889919 by Youngblood
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Yes I know but you can't beat the sound of a 6 with megaphones going down the road, plus I already have a few ZX750 turbos and a 810 Z650 turbo its just different.

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30 Sep 2023 10:20 #889923 by Wookie58

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03 Oct 2023 05:44 #890025 by Youngblood
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Anything is possible but I'm in the research and design stage at the moment, Good thing is I have found a good USD front suspension that can be made to fit.
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