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19 May 2023 14:11 - 19 May 2023 14:12 #884935
by TexasKZ
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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The part of your post that I quoted above makes me wonder if the tachometer is reading 1000 rpm higher than the engine is actually turning.
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19 May 2023 14:29 #884937
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but when I tune in idle I get on 2200-2300, so maybe that is an indication?
I think there is two parallel thing her.
1. RPM properly showing to much.
2. From listen on the engine sound when crusing in 80-90km/h I feel it should have been 1000 lower… I quite often need to verify I’m in 4th gear and have one more gear
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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understand, no I haven’t.The part of your post that I quoted above makes me wonder if the tachometer is reading 1000 rpm higher than the engine is actually turning.
but when I tune in idle I get on 2200-2300, so maybe that is an indication?
I think there is two parallel thing her.
1. RPM properly showing to much.
2. From listen on the engine sound when crusing in 80-90km/h I feel it should have been 1000 lower… I quite often need to verify I’m in 4th gear and have one more gear
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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19 May 2023 15:00 #884938
by TexasKZ
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
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2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
Replied by TexasKZ on topic RPM crusing
With stock camshafts, idle should be around 1100. With high performance camshafts, a little higher, but nowhere near 2000.
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19 May 2023 15:34 - 19 May 2023 15:35 #884946
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No wonder your reving 6000 at 90KPH... your already 1100-1200 RPM higher than you should be.
understand, no I haven’t.The part of your post that I quoted above makes me wonder if the tachometer is reading 1000 rpm higher than the engine is actually turning.
but when I tune in idle I get on 2200-2300, so maybe that is an indication?
I think there is two parallel thing her.
1. RPM properly showing to much.
2. From listen on the engine sound when crusing in 80-90km/h I feel it should have been 1000 lower… I quite often need to verify I’m in 4th gear and have one more gear
Last edit: 19 May 2023 15:35 by Injected. Reason: sp
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20 May 2023 11:12 #884969
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The stock gearing for your bike is 13/33 for a 2.54 ratio running a 630 chain.
I assume your bike is converted to 530 chain?
Assuming yes, that suggests a 16/40 or 41 sprocket configuration. Since your bike is running a 42 rear sprocket, that means your gearing is lower.
Since you have an 810 kit, with much more torque than stock, you can easily run taller gearing. A 17T front is the easiest change, assuming you have clearance. A double change, including the rear sprocket, is another option. I'd try the 17 front first though.
I assume your bike is converted to 530 chain?
Assuming yes, that suggests a 16/40 or 41 sprocket configuration. Since your bike is running a 42 rear sprocket, that means your gearing is lower.
Since you have an 810 kit, with much more torque than stock, you can easily run taller gearing. A 17T front is the easiest change, assuming you have clearance. A double change, including the rear sprocket, is another option. I'd try the 17 front first though.
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20 May 2023 14:06 - 20 May 2023 14:09 #884982
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I haven’t replace anything (replaced all last time) on the chain/sprocket so replace front sprocket is properly good todo anyway do to wear.
normaly I unddrstand there should be space for 17?
Will the gas consume go down on crusing?
Can I reuse the nute and washer?
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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Thank you, 530 chain is correct.The stock gearing for your bike is 13/33 for a 2.54 ratio running a 630 chain.
I assume your bike is converted to 530 chain?
Assuming yes, that suggests a 16/40 or 41 sprocket configuration. Since your bike is running a 42 rear sprocket, that means your gearing is lower.
Since you have an 810 kit, with much more torque than stock, you can easily run taller gearing. A 17T front is the easiest change, assuming you have clearance. A double change, including the rear sprocket, is another option. I'd try the 17 front first though.
I haven’t replace anything (replaced all last time) on the chain/sprocket so replace front sprocket is properly good todo anyway do to wear.
normaly I unddrstand there should be space for 17?
Will the gas consume go down on crusing?
Can I reuse the nute and washer?
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
Last edit: 20 May 2023 14:09 by gordone.
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20 May 2023 14:32 - 20 May 2023 14:45 #884985
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There is room for a 17T front running a 530 non O-ring chain so it clears the stock steel front chain guard.
It may rub with a O-ring chain, not sure.
I had to change my gearing because I could not make it across a intersection without lifting the front wheel. Since then this has been my go to gearing for my non stock 650 builds (750 Spectre engine shown)
It may rub with a O-ring chain, not sure.
I had to change my gearing because I could not make it across a intersection without lifting the front wheel. Since then this has been my go to gearing for my non stock 650 builds (750 Spectre engine shown)
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