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07 Dec 2021 04:47 - 07 Dec 2021 04:49 #858716
by Michel3007
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Hi,
I have recently installed a new set of Dyna ignition coils and a pick up coil plate on my Kz750. The previous pick up were dead...
I installed everything following Dyna instructions but I have a problem regarding the timing.On my timing advancer, I have on the 1-4 side, from left to right, a T mark, a F mark and then two close marks. On the other side though, I have only one T mark. It means that it is very difficult to set up precisely the 2-3 pick up.
So far, my method has been to reproduce the same spaces between the marks on the 1-4 side on the 2-3 side with a pen.
Does that make sense to you or is there another way of making sure of the timing ?
When I bought this bike, it wasn't running because of a faulty starter clutch. I replaced it completely (including a new sprocket) and it now works. I also cleaned the carbs, checked the float height and set the pilot screws but haven't synced them yet as I figured it would be pointless without a proper timing. The compression is about 150 psi on each cylinder. And I also adjusted valve clearance (thanks to Nessism). One last thing, I replaced the old and cracked exhausts with a brand new 4 in 1 Vince and Haynes I found for cheap on a second hand website.
Here is a video of the engine running, would appreciate your comments if you hear anything !
Do you think that the occasional stumble of the engine could be down to the synchronization or the timing ? Also there is a ticking (valves?) and the primary chain noise (this is my first time hearing a kz750 running and I have read on the forum that this is normal).
Cheers !
I have recently installed a new set of Dyna ignition coils and a pick up coil plate on my Kz750. The previous pick up were dead...
I installed everything following Dyna instructions but I have a problem regarding the timing.On my timing advancer, I have on the 1-4 side, from left to right, a T mark, a F mark and then two close marks. On the other side though, I have only one T mark. It means that it is very difficult to set up precisely the 2-3 pick up.
So far, my method has been to reproduce the same spaces between the marks on the 1-4 side on the 2-3 side with a pen.
Does that make sense to you or is there another way of making sure of the timing ?
When I bought this bike, it wasn't running because of a faulty starter clutch. I replaced it completely (including a new sprocket) and it now works. I also cleaned the carbs, checked the float height and set the pilot screws but haven't synced them yet as I figured it would be pointless without a proper timing. The compression is about 150 psi on each cylinder. And I also adjusted valve clearance (thanks to Nessism). One last thing, I replaced the old and cracked exhausts with a brand new 4 in 1 Vince and Haynes I found for cheap on a second hand website.
Here is a video of the engine running, would appreciate your comments if you hear anything !
Do you think that the occasional stumble of the engine could be down to the synchronization or the timing ? Also there is a ticking (valves?) and the primary chain noise (this is my first time hearing a kz750 running and I have read on the forum that this is normal).
Cheers !
KZ 750 H2 LTD 1981
GPZ750R1 1982
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07 Dec 2021 04:52 #858717
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Replied by Michel3007 on topic KZ750 H2 1981 setting timing on Dyna s-2 pick up coils
It seems I can't upload a video, does anyone know how to do it ?
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07 Dec 2021 10:43 - 07 Dec 2021 10:44 #858735
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Yes, that is the easiest way to do it. One way or another you have to scratch your own marks onto the advancer to set it manually.So far, my method has been to reproduce the same spaces between the marks on the 1-4 side on the 2-3 side with a pen.
Does that make sense to you or is there another way of making sure of the timing ?
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
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07 Dec 2021 12:44 #858743
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Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic KZ750 H2 1981 setting timing on Dyna s-2 pick up coils
I have an 81kz750 H LTD and I recently put a dyna system on mine as well. Here is the instructions that dyna gave me for static timing the pickup coil replacement.
Thank you for the call regarding your Dynatek DS2-2 ignition.
Below, please find a simplified static timing procedure. If followed in order, it is very easy, fast and accurate:
1-Pull 1/4 spark plugs, place back into wires and set on cylinder head to ground.
2-Be sure Dyna-S is fully wired properly.
3-Rotate the crankshaft so the advance mark on the advancer assembly is aligned with the case pointer.
4-Loosen the Dyna-S plate and turn fully clockwise until it hits the 3 hold down screws.
5-Turn the ignition on and to the run position.
6-Grab the Dyna-S rotor and turn fully clockwise until it stops and hold there.
7-Slowly turn the Dyna-S plate counterclockwise (while pushing in to maintain its ground in the engine cases) and when the 1/4 coil fires the spark plugs, lock the plate down and this would complete the timing process.
Thank you for the call regarding your Dynatek DS2-2 ignition.
Below, please find a simplified static timing procedure. If followed in order, it is very easy, fast and accurate:
1-Pull 1/4 spark plugs, place back into wires and set on cylinder head to ground.
2-Be sure Dyna-S is fully wired properly.
3-Rotate the crankshaft so the advance mark on the advancer assembly is aligned with the case pointer.
4-Loosen the Dyna-S plate and turn fully clockwise until it hits the 3 hold down screws.
5-Turn the ignition on and to the run position.
6-Grab the Dyna-S rotor and turn fully clockwise until it stops and hold there.
7-Slowly turn the Dyna-S plate counterclockwise (while pushing in to maintain its ground in the engine cases) and when the 1/4 coil fires the spark plugs, lock the plate down and this would complete the timing process.
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07 Dec 2021 13:10 #858745
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Replied by Michel3007 on topic KZ750 H2 1981 setting timing on Dyna s-2 pick up coils
Thank you both for your replies ! My instructions didn't include such a simple procedure...
now that I tweaked the adjustment on the 2-3 pick up coil, I guess I will have to stick to making my own marks...
Is the 2-3 pickup coil originally set fully on one side (ccwise or cwise) Elfarm98648 ? If I can put it back how it was I could follow your procedure
now that I tweaked the adjustment on the 2-3 pick up coil, I guess I will have to stick to making my own marks...
Is the 2-3 pickup coil originally set fully on one side (ccwise or cwise) Elfarm98648 ? If I can put it back how it was I could follow your procedure
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07 Dec 2021 16:52 #858764
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Replied by Elfarm98648 on topic KZ750 H2 1981 setting timing on Dyna s-2 pick up coils
I just set the 1/4 advance side. I trusted dyna to set the marks 180° apart and it has not failed me yet. I did not make marks on the other side because I didn’t see it as necessary.
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