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13 Oct 2021 09:41 #856590 by rokit_armor
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After a quick ride home yesterday from work (~2 miles) the top end on my bike was quite hot- I could hear boiling/popping sounds from inside. I've got my timing dialed in, and carbs jetted (a hair on the rich side) so I'm pretty sure it's not running hot due to a lean condition. Would the oil pressure from a stock pump be enough to cool a hot street build, or should I invest in an oil cooler? Is there a high-flow/pressure oil pump available as well?

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13 Oct 2021 16:43 #856607 by Nessism
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Most of the late KZ bikes ran an oil cooler.  That doesn't mean they are necessary though.  I'm not sure about the shaft drive 1100 but with a lot of KZ engines you can install a later oil sump cover pan with the oil cooler takeoffs built in which makes installing a cooler easier.  That's what I did with my 750 anyway.  If you just ride your bike around in a sane fashion I'd skip the cooler.  As a mitigation against overheat abuse you can run synthetic oil which has a much higher vapor temperature compared to mineral oil.  

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13 Oct 2021 18:37 #856613 by rokit_armor
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If you just ride your bike around in a sane fashion
 
Well that's just out of the question 

I just changed the oil with some Liqui-Moly 4T 15w50, I don't think its syntheic.

I'll see about the sump cover pan, finding a GPZ takeoff is turning into an expensive endeavor.

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14 Oct 2021 03:50 #856625 by z1kzonly
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If your head is boiling oil? Something is too tight in that valve train!

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14 Oct 2021 06:00 #856627 by TexasKZ
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I think I would get an infrared thermometer and find out for sure if something is getting too hot, and if so, what, before I began randomly replacing parts.

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14 Oct 2021 07:17 - 14 Oct 2021 09:30 #856631 by daveo
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Do BS34 carbs provide adequate air/fuel flow for an 1170 engine with high lift cams?
RS36's+ would on my Christmas list.


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14 Oct 2021 08:05 #856633 by DOHC
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I think I would get an infrared thermometer and find out for sure if something is getting too hot, and if so, what, before I began randomly replacing parts.

This is very good advice.  Harbor freight sells one for $25.

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14 Oct 2021 20:14 #856658 by rokit_armor
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Do BS34 carbs provide adequate air/fuel flow for an 1170 engine with high lift cams?
RS36's+ would on my Christmas list.

They do seem to! I would not mind some RS36s, that would be a few Christmases worth though.

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14 Oct 2021 20:14 #856659 by rokit_armor
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I think I would get an infrared thermometer and find out for sure if something is getting too hot, and if so, what, before I began randomly replacing parts.

This is very good advice.  Harbor freight sells one for $25.
 
I'll swing by HF tomorrow and snag one.

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