- Posts: 2
- Thank you received: 1
Engine Knock - kz1000
- novicerider
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
Less
More
20 Mar 2012 12:08 #510836
by novicerider
Engine Knock - kz1000 was created by novicerider
Hello All, New to the site but have been reading for several months now and learned quite a bit of info, and was inspired to get my old bike out of storage and get her running again.
Heres the quick scoop:
1994 kzp1000 - 19xxx miles - been in storage since 2004
Pulled out of storage, brought home, pulled carbs off and cleaned very well and re-installed, changed oil, new gas, etc...
Fired right up, but there is a very loud knocking noise coming from lower end only at idle...(does not idle real well, probably going to rebuild carbs and re-sync carbs)
I dont know if I want to invest time in re-building carbs if i have more serious problems with knocking noise... It is definitely loud, and lower, but goes away when I rev the engine, and i am not sure if that is because the RPM is higher and the bike is louder and maybe i just cant hear it..
At a rought idle, while running, there is a dry rubbing / kncking noise coming from right side of motor, that seem to go away under acceleration...
any suggestions, tips? Someone told me it could be as simple as rebuilding and syncing the carbs? ? i dont know how that would be the case...
please help - its getting warm here in st. louis and I wanna ride!
Heres the quick scoop:
1994 kzp1000 - 19xxx miles - been in storage since 2004
Pulled out of storage, brought home, pulled carbs off and cleaned very well and re-installed, changed oil, new gas, etc...
Fired right up, but there is a very loud knocking noise coming from lower end only at idle...(does not idle real well, probably going to rebuild carbs and re-sync carbs)
I dont know if I want to invest time in re-building carbs if i have more serious problems with knocking noise... It is definitely loud, and lower, but goes away when I rev the engine, and i am not sure if that is because the RPM is higher and the bike is louder and maybe i just cant hear it..
At a rought idle, while running, there is a dry rubbing / kncking noise coming from right side of motor, that seem to go away under acceleration...
any suggestions, tips? Someone told me it could be as simple as rebuilding and syncing the carbs? ? i dont know how that would be the case...
please help - its getting warm here in st. louis and I wanna ride!
The following user(s) said Thank You: jimmiehardin28@gmail.com
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- johnbgood
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 45
- Thank you received: 4
20 Mar 2012 12:17 #510837
by johnbgood
KZ1000P 1991
Replied by johnbgood on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Hi
I would pull the plug wire from 1 cylinder at a time and run it. I know in a car motor a bad rod/etc is quite a bit noisier with no spark. Maybe the same for you. Might help id which cylinder is a problem.
My $.02 Worth
Johnbgood
I would pull the plug wire from 1 cylinder at a time and run it. I know in a car motor a bad rod/etc is quite a bit noisier with no spark. Maybe the same for you. Might help id which cylinder is a problem.
My $.02 Worth
Johnbgood
KZ1000P 1991
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- testarossa
- Offline
- User
- Attack life, it's only trying to kill you.
Less
More
- Posts: 3678
- Thank you received: 82
20 Mar 2012 16:25 #510868
by testarossa
1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
Replied by testarossa on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Sounds to me like a classic case of carbs that need to be synced. Considering that the bike has been stored for 8 years, you probably should clean out the carbs first, then sync.
1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- novicerider
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 2
- Thank you received: 1
20 Mar 2012 17:00 #510874
by novicerider
Replied by novicerider on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
[attachment:1]C:\fakepath\IMAG0298.jpg[/attachment]
[attachment:2]C:\fakepath\IMAG0294.jpg[/attachment]
Help me understand....
Carbs not being in sync will cause or "could cause" and lower end knock?
thanks and pardon my ignorance...
mike
[attachment:2]C:\fakepath\IMAG0294.jpg[/attachment]
Help me understand....
Carbs not being in sync will cause or "could cause" and lower end knock?
thanks and pardon my ignorance...
mike
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Colbyreid93
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 6
- Thank you received: 0
05 Apr 2022 15:00 #864975
by Colbyreid93
Replied by Colbyreid93 on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Aye mike,
I’m having a knock that appears to completely disappear at around 1,300+, did you come to any resolve? Or do I have to pull this heavy b***h out and split it again
81’kz1000j
I’m having a knock that appears to completely disappear at around 1,300+, did you come to any resolve? Or do I have to pull this heavy b***h out and split it again
81’kz1000j
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 750 R1
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 1162
- Thank you received: 388
05 Apr 2022 15:19 #864980
by 750 R1
Replied by 750 R1 on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
100%Sounds to me like a classic case of carbs that need to be synced. Considering that the bike has been stored for 8 years, you probably should clean out the carbs first, then sync.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- TexasKZ
- Offline
- Platinum Member
Less
More
- Posts: 7581
- Thank you received: 2234
05 Apr 2022 15:22 #864982
by TexasKZ
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
Replied by TexasKZ on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Good advice, though nobody has posted to this thread in ten years.
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- TexasKZ
- Offline
- Platinum Member
Less
More
- Posts: 7581
- Thank you received: 2234
05 Apr 2022 15:25 #864985
by TexasKZ
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
Replied by TexasKZ on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Depends on what is causing the sound. Start with the easy stuff. Make sure the valves are properly adjusted and the make sure the carburetors are properly synchronized.Aye mike,
I’m having a knock that appears to completely disappear at around 1,300+, did you come to any resolve? Or do I have to pull this heavy b***h out and split it again
81’kz1000j
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Wookie58
- Offline
- Moderator
Less
More
- Posts: 4182
- Thank you received: 2388
05 Apr 2022 15:33 #864990
by Wookie58
Replied by Wookie58 on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Does the noise change if you pull the clutch lever in ?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 750 R1
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 1162
- Thank you received: 388
05 Apr 2022 15:35 #864992
by 750 R1
Replied by 750 R1 on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Oops Zombie thread !!!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Colbyreid93
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 6
- Thank you received: 0
05 Apr 2022 18:56 #865007
by Colbyreid93
Replied by Colbyreid93 on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
No thanks for the reply! My noise seems to be more toward starter clutch/piston 1. Clutch is good. Oil light will come on at idle as well ever since I replaced trans, haven’t put many miles on it, I tried to ignore it since it went away the moment you touch the throttle. Will give valves a check(haven’t done since I owned the bike(1 month ago) but they sound ok’ish lol.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Wookie58
- Offline
- Moderator
Less
More
- Posts: 4182
- Thank you received: 2388
06 Apr 2022 10:55 - 06 Apr 2022 10:58 #865040
by Wookie58
Replied by Wookie58 on topic Engine Knock - kz1000
Ok so carb balancing etc may reduce the noise (backlash in primary drive etc) but it won't effect the light.
You say you have replaced the trans ?
Therefore I guess you have split the casings ?
Is it possible you have omitted an "O" ring on re-assembly ?
I would suggest before you dig too deep you carry out an oil pressure test with a gauge, if the pressure is low at idle it could be as simple as a lazy pressure relief valve or a partially blocked pick up
You say you have replaced the trans ?
Therefore I guess you have split the casings ?
Is it possible you have omitted an "O" ring on re-assembly ?
I would suggest before you dig too deep you carry out an oil pressure test with a gauge, if the pressure is low at idle it could be as simple as a lazy pressure relief valve or a partially blocked pick up
Last edit: 06 Apr 2022 10:58 by Wookie58.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.