79 KZ1000 Cam Timing HELP!!!

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18 Apr 2011 00:48 - 18 Apr 2011 00:49 #445245 by Patton
Replied by Patton on topic 79 KZ1000 Cam Timing HELP!!!

six862m6 wrote: ...Anyone have some small shims (2.25 or smaller) they want to sell? so I can get a good base point and do the math. Also.... need some parts for some flat slides (Mikuni RS34s) looking for a bowl and 4 new float needles and seats....


If not already done, would check out KZr's Classifieds categories, and possibly post in Wanted. :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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13 Jun 2012 22:42 #528987 by richrand
Replied by richrand on topic 79 KZ1000 Cam Timing HELP!!!
Top. Holy sh*t. The big line across the exhaust cam is not the reference mark? my god. so the "mark" is the point of the isosceles triangle made by the bolt pattern? because there is no real discernible mark. hope i didn't bend all of my valves. :(

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13 Jun 2012 23:05 #528990 by six862m6
Replied by six862m6 on topic 79 KZ1000 Cam Timing HELP!!!
Sorry to hear that my friend.... it sounds like you made the very same mistake I did. There is actually a very small carrot on the exhaust cam that looks just like the mark(s) on the intake cam that you are supposed to use. Its definitely not the flat lines that go all the way across. I hope you didn't bend any valve man... I wasn't so lucky though; it caused me to bend almost every valve in my head (and I only hand cranked it). :(

David

'79 1000LTD
1075 Kit
RS34s
Mild Port&Polish
Kerker Header

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14 Jun 2012 11:20 #529079 by richrand
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Yup. Compression = 80 on nos 1-3 and zero on no. 4. I'll take a day off to clear my head.

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14 Jun 2012 16:59 #529125 by richrand
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Whelp. Didn't take the day off. Pulled the head and i've got 6 of 8 valves bent. New valves are on the way.

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15 Jun 2012 00:16 - 15 Jun 2012 00:17 #529218 by Old Man Rock
Replied by Old Man Rock on topic 79 KZ1000 Cam Timing HELP!!!
As others have provided... it's the > mark not the lines on the exhaust cam...

Maybe this help when ready to put back together after repair...

With 1/4 @ TDC "T Mark" as you have in the image, from the right side of the engine looking at Cams...

Both cam lobe tips should be facing in @ deck height....
Right side image is the correct alignments!


1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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15 Jun 2012 18:22 #529375 by richrand
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Thanks. That pic is super helpful.

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15 Jun 2012 18:41 #529386 by Tomolu5
Replied by Tomolu5 on topic 79 KZ1000 Cam Timing HELP!!!
I made the same mistake, got away without bending any valves though, suprisingly. I saw all the valves afterwards because I decided to have Larry cavanuagh do his magic on it. Happy, very happy. I'm planning to assemble it tommorow, and I'm also planning to go camera phone crazy during the assembly process. Then I will start a thread.

Mine:
04 Honda rebel 250(wifes)
04 GSXR 750(bolt on galore)
98 CBR 600F3(filter, pipe, adjustable cam sprokets, dyno tune)
76 KZ900A (LTD gauge pods, crash bars, LTD(style)pipes, dyna coils and ignition,headwork and mild port cleanup by cavanaugh racing, K&N filter pods, heck I dunno.

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23 Mar 2022 23:19 #864253 by Killerkz101180
Replied by Killerkz101180 on topic 79 KZ1000 Cam Timing HELP!!!
Assuming i did all the steps correctly and all of that ....I have 2 questions on this topic at what point do I put the tensioner in ? it is a aftermarket APE type with the bolt and plate and is there  And is there a general rule on adjusting that tensioner ? ......
and maybe I have a 3rd question lol.  If I do all the timing and I'm going to time my Cams with a degree wheel after im finished finding lobe centers is it ok to turn motor backwards to adjust the APE cam sprockets to get them to 110° or whatever degree I'm going for ?
thanks 

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