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1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
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25 Sep 2022 09:43 - 25 Sep 2022 09:58 #874505
by gd4now
1977 KZ650 B1
Pods and Denco header
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Replied by gd4now on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
Agree that as one of either rake or trail changes (increase or decrease) the opposite change happens for the other. But length of forks and angle of the neck and any offset in triple trees plays a part as well. I was attempting to point out that the change to leading axle happened in 81. Which in my way of thinking (could be incorrect) if all else is equal it would make a change in rake which as stated would change trail.
1977 KZ650 B1
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25 Sep 2022 13:05 #874520
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KZ1000 Restomod ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/614517-1977-kz1000-restomod )
1977 KZ1000A1 ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
Replied by calum on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
AFAIK rake is just the angle of the headstock. Only trail uses the position of the front axle. Hence when you increase rake without making any other changers the trail will also increase. The leading axle is then used to counteract that and reduce trail. The 750H still has a bit more trail than the 750E but not as much as it would with the standard forks.
We may have gone a bit off topic here
We may have gone a bit off topic here
KZ1000 Restomod ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/614517-1977-kz1000-restomod )
1977 KZ1000A1 ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
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26 Sep 2022 04:58 #874550
by kzstreetfighter71
06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
Replied by kzstreetfighter71 on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
Maybe. but this is what KZR is all about, starts at "how much is this bike worth", O.P disappears, members keep the thread going and it turns into a debate on the finer points of rake and trail of specific models. No politics, just bike talk. The way it should be.We may have gone a bit off topic here
06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
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26 Sep 2022 07:06 #874558
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1978 KZ 1000B (73 tribute)
1977 KZ1000 project
1976 KZ 900
1976 KV 75
1976 Honda Elsinore MT250
1974 Z1 900 project
1971 Honda CT70
Replied by Wheelhop on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
So i bit the bullet and put my money where my mouth is today and added another horse to the stable, 78 kz1000 Ltd, you could be missing a deal with that bike if you pass it up, dont let 3 letters brake the deal, a Z is a Z.
My bike also started as a 1978 KZ1000 LTD
1978 KZ 1000B (73 tribute)
1977 KZ1000 project
1976 KZ 900
1976 KV 75
1976 Honda Elsinore MT250
1974 Z1 900 project
1971 Honda CT70
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26 Sep 2022 07:30 - 26 Sep 2022 07:30 #874559
by kzstreetfighter71
06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
Replied by kzstreetfighter71 on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
And a classy looking machine it is too!
My bike also started as a 1978 KZ1000 LTD
06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
Last edit: 26 Sep 2022 07:30 by kzstreetfighter71.
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26 Sep 2022 07:40 #874561
by Nessism
The 750H head tube is 3 degrees more slack, to make up for the leading axle fork.
Replied by Nessism on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
AFAIK rake is just the angle of the headstock. Only trail uses the position of the front axle. Hence when you increase rake without making any other changers the trail will also increase. The leading axle is then used to counteract that and reduce trail. The 750H still has a bit more trail than the 750E but not as much as it would with the standard forks.
We may have gone a bit off topic here
The 750H head tube is 3 degrees more slack, to make up for the leading axle fork.
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