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19 Jan 2024 07:06 #894171 by TheTrout
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All of the aftermarket lines I have seen come with new banjo fittings already installed. You can buy bulk line and some fittings and install them yourself, but you will need a specific crimping tool to do that. 

The Z1enterprises lines do not come with banjos.  They have threaded ends and they sell banjos with the threads to fit the lines.
 

1978 KZ1000B2

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19 Jan 2024 07:09 #894172 by TexasKZ
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All of the aftermarket lines I have seen come with new banjo fittings already installed. You can buy bulk line and some fittings and install them yourself, but you will need a specific crimping tool to do that. 

The Z1enterprises lines do not come with banjos.  They have threaded ends and they sell banjos with the threads to fit the lines.

 
Yes, I looked just AFTER I posted that. Duh. 

Here is a fully assembled option.

www.coremoto.com
 

1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough

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19 Jan 2024 09:41 #894180 by JR
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If the old brake lines look like this then chuck em.  I'm pretty sure the banjos are crimped and not reusable.  

 

I got those Z! Ent  Goodridge SS  lines plus banjos plus washers  (they are in the Fatbook)  from my local shop who I like to support and I cleaned up and reused the old  banjo bolts - Fatbook bolts have different - Harley?-  threads..
I like those lines. Everything went together very well and braking is much improved.

Just a note on measurements.  The line in the pic below is a 14 inch line. It is 14inches from red line to red line.   


 

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19 Jan 2024 12:14 #894182 by TheTrout
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If the old brake lines look like this then chuck em.  I'm pretty sure the banjos are crimped and not reusable.  

 

I got those Z! Ent  Goodridge SS  lines plus banjos plus washers  (they are in the Fatbook)  from my local shop who I like to support and I cleaned up and reused the old  banjo bolts - Fatbook bolts have different - Harley?-  threads..
I like those lines. Everything went together very well and braking is much improved.

Just a note on measurements.  The line in the pic below is a 14 inch line. It is 14inches from red line to red line.   

Yep, I still got them old 45 year old original brake lines.  I'm thinking brand new everything.  Probably should rebuild the calipers too.  Any idea how hard a job it is to rebuild the calipers?

1978 KZ1000B2

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19 Jan 2024 15:51 #894185 by JR
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Aah. Sorry cant answer that last question. Still on my to do list 

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19 Jan 2024 16:10 - 19 Jan 2024 16:11 #894186 by Mikaw
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Caliper is straightforward. Nothing rocket science. If needed buy good stainless pistons and rubber from brake crafters. Keep in mind in order to take full advantage of the caliper rebuild the M/C’s need to be rebuilt also, at a minimum disassemble and clean. All very simple stuff. New braided lines and you will be sleeping in tall cotton for years

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1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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11 Jun 2024 17:21 - 11 Jun 2024 17:27 #900616 by TheTrout
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I am getting ready to measure and order customer brake lines from Coremoto.  Can anyone tell me what size/type the banjo bolts are on a 1978 KZ1000B2 (LTD)?  The choices are 10mm x 1.0 and 10mm x 1.25, also the option of single length and double length.

 My guess is 10mm x 1.0 single length, can anyone confirm that?

Also wonder about measuring the lines.  I really don't want to take them all off to measure, mainly because I am not working this Saturday and want to get out for a ride.  How accurate do my measurements need to be?  I'd like to measure them on the bike if it can be done.  I was thinking of using some gas line to measure it.  Anyone done it before?

Side note - I took a second job as a barback at the local brewery.  I normally work every fuckin weekend.  I recently pissed off the bar manager and presto, only have to work on Sunday!  That is one to remember!

1978 KZ1000B2
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12 Jun 2024 00:55 #900623 by Scirocco
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The banjo bolts = 10mm x 1.25 
You determine the break line length following the routing (without the banjo fittings) with a string.

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12 Jun 2024 06:43 #900629 by JR
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The Trout wrote

(I'd like to measure them on the bike if it can be done.  I was thinking of using some gas line to measure it.  Anyone done it before?)

Gas line should work. I used tv white coxial cable and a couple of zip ties. Easy to mark

 

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12 Jun 2024 06:59 #900630 by TheTrout
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What is the angle of bend on the banjo fittings?  I can't tell if they are 10 or 20 degree bends.

1978 KZ1000B2

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12 Jun 2024 16:29 #900641 by TheTrout
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I got my order in, went with 20 degree bends on the banjo fittings.  I sure hope that was right.  This was the one important thing I needed to get done on my bike.

1978 KZ1000B2

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12 Jun 2024 17:34 #900643 by sf4t7
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If you're replacing rubber brake lines you'll notice a big improvement with the braided stainless lines.  I converted to braided stainless brake lines on one of my bikes in the 1980's and it's been the first upgrade on every bike since.


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