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24 Oct 2022 16:31 #875957 by blackozvet
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The rubbers were milled to match the ported intakes.
With 38mm flatslides and 430 cams it has never been vacuum synced.
 

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24 Oct 2022 19:00 #875965 by hardrockminer
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I think I understand.  The inside diameter of the intake boots was milled to make them larger.  Do you know why the synch ports were removed?

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24 Oct 2022 19:52 #875968 by blackozvet
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I think I understand.  The inside diameter of the intake boots was milled to make them larger.  Do you know why the synch ports were removed?
These intake rubbers are #16065-1135 which are from early 80's Z1000J- they dont have vacuum ports.
Engine builders in the 80's were using these rubbers for ported head/large carb applications.  Lack of vac port was a bonus, coz they are just a potential leak in a race engine.
My rubbers were then bored on the inside half to match the diameter of the ported intake.

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25 Oct 2022 00:55 #875970 by Wookie58
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The rubbers were milled to match the ported intakes.
With 38mm flatslides and 430 cams it has never been vacuum synced.
  
Vac syncing is worthwhile to get the smoothest running, you could do this with the tool I posted or if your hearing is ok you could go "old skool" and listen to the intakes with a length of 1/2 inch hose and adjust until the rush of air in the intakes sounds the same 
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25 Oct 2022 02:52 #875973 by blackozvet
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First thing on the agenda is to get the garage cleaned up - too many boxes everywhere.
Now take the carbs out of their box and throw the box away!
The carbs on this engine are Mikuni 38 mm flatslides.
I take the carbs apart, give everything a good clean, blow out all the orifices and put it back together.
Once the carbs are on, its time to fit up the new throttle cables.  I have used the 'short ' version of the cables, which are 990mm - it doesnt sound short at almost a metre but its just about perfect for my application.
Its a little bit tricky getting the new combo together as I have deleted the remote single quick action throttle and gone back to the stock type push/pull throttle grip mounted in the switch block, but eventually get it sorted.
 
The engine is now looking almost done - the only thing remaining is the camshafts.
 

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25 Oct 2022 04:38 #875974 by slmjim+Z1BEBE
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Among the first class details and workmanship, gotta say you really nailed the shiny-dull / glossy-satin finish on the polished aluminum motor covers.  In the pics they appear stock finish, something much more difficult to accomplish than simple mirror-like polishing.

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25 Oct 2022 05:06 - 25 Oct 2022 05:41 #875978 by howardhb
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"Vac syncing is worthwhile to get the smoothest running, you could do this with the tool I posted or if your hearing is ok you could go "old skool" and listen to the intakes with a length of 1/2 inch hose and adjust until the rush of air in the intakes sounds the same  
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+1 !

I agonised over getting the vacuum sync. "right". However, using "analog" guages or Carbitune bugged me, in the digital age....
So I designed a digital sync. tool:

 
 


It uses four individual Bosch atmospheric sensors, like 2 dollars each. 
Internal Lithium Ion battery, charged by cell-phone charger!

The trick was embedding them in an "air-tight (vacuum tight) housing, with 4 electrical connections to each one. 
But, it's totally do-able.



The graphic display of each cylinder's vacuum is an expanded scale of 100millibar, and can be switched to inches or millimetres Mercury.



Being digital, calibrating all 4 sensors is simple... my software measures ambient atmospheric pressure before starting a sync. and, using channel 1 as the "reference", offsets the other 3 to read the same value.  
I managed to set the sync to withing 2 mmMercury. (ok, so it took some patience...) now, once warm, it will idle happily at 500 rpm!
It's quite remarkable what a difference a good sync. makes.

If anyone wants to make one, I will gladly supply all the 3D print files, circuit diagram and the software, por nada! 

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25 Oct 2022 06:52 #875983 by Wookie58
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Howard that is an awesome piece of kit, you should sell the idea to one of the many equipment company's out there 
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25 Oct 2022 10:06 #875989 by Dr. Gamma
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.430 lift cams? Whats the valve overlap......50~55 degrees?? With that big of a cam, and enlarged intake ports, I really doubt you would  have a halfway steady vacuum reading to use either mercury sticks or vacuum gauges. The mercury sticks would be bouncing up and down about 4 or 5 lines with that setup!!!!

Just wire gauge the slides with like a .025 wire to sync the carbs. That will get you close as you can get.
I hope you don't expect this motor to have a nice smooth idle like a stock motor does.

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25 Oct 2022 10:15 #875990 by Wookie58
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.430 lift cams? Whats the valve overlap......50~55 degrees?? With that big of a cam, and enlarged intake ports, I really doubt you would  have a halfway steady vacuum reading to use either mercury sticks or vacuum gauges. The mercury sticks would be bouncing up and down about 4 or 5 lines with that setup!!!!

Just wire gauge the slides with like a .025 wire to sync the carbs. That will get you close as you can get.
I hope you don't expect this motor to have a nice smooth idle like a stock motor does.
Good point Doc, I know that big cams play havoc with early muscle cars where everything is vacum operated. I Remember seeing a programme where a guy was restoring an early 70's Vette and the headlights wouldn't lift with the cam that was in it

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25 Oct 2022 11:38 #875997 by Wheelhop
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I think I understand.  The inside diameter of the intake boots was milled to make them larger.  Do you know why the synch ports were removed?
These intake rubbers are #16065-1135 which are from early 80's Z1000J- they dont have vacuum ports.
Engine builders in the 80's were using these rubbers for ported head/large carb applications.  Lack of vac port was a bonus, coz they are just a potential leak in a race engine.
My rubbers were then bored on the inside half to match the diameter of the ported intake.
When I got my 76 KZ900, the "sync" ports appeared to be drilled into the intake portion of the head (see pic).  It originally had Mikuni 33 mm SB's  and the carb holders did not have sync ports.
 

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25 Oct 2022 13:18 #876004 by Wookie58
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I think I understand.  The inside diameter of the intake boots was milled to make them larger.  Do you know why the synch ports were removed?
These intake rubbers are #16065-1135 which are from early 80's Z1000J- they dont have vacuum ports.
Engine builders in the 80's were using these rubbers for ported head/large carb applications.  Lack of vac port was a bonus, coz they are just a potential leak in a race engine.
My rubbers were then bored on the inside half to match the diameter of the ported intake.
When I got my 76 KZ900, the "sync" ports appeared to be drilled into the intake portion of the head (see pic).  It originally had Mikuni 33 mm SB's  and the carb holders did not have sync ports.
  
That is similar to the factory set up on a CB900 

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