Title replacement for a barn find.

Ed_in_Miami wrote: I'm in Florida.. It's IMPOSSIBLE to get a title for an untitled bike in this state...
Pisses me off....!!!

Ed, there HAS to be some sort of procedure to title an abandoned or impounded vehicle. Wrecker companies and impound yards need to have the ability to sell vehicles at auctions.. Unless impounds and tow yards don't operate in that state.

dor.mo.gov/forms/Abandoned_Vehicle_Manual.pdf

back in the early 70's, i rebuilt an abandoned honda in miami using parts from a friend. every time i talked to the dmv, i would get a different story and i would follow their instructions only to be told by the next person at dmv that it was wrong and i had to do it another way. after three tries i gave up and used a bogus tag off my blown up ariel 650. rode it for 3 years and ended up giving it to the same friend and left the state

ned37 wrote: back in the early 70's, i rebuilt an abandoned honda in miami using parts from a friend. every time i talked to the dmv, i would get a different story and i would follow their instructions only to be told by the next person at dmv that it was wrong and i had to do it another way. after three tries i gave up and used a bogus tag off my blown up ariel 650. rode it for 3 years and ended up giving it to the same friend and left the state

That sounds like the runaround I was getting here. I had one idiot at the DMV tell me to >just< go get a court order from a judge, so i went the county courthouse and talked to a judge, and was told that I had to hire a lawyer and use the proper legal procedures to get a judgement.. A bunch of dufus advice is given out at the DMV every day. I gave it up on the idiots at the DMV, and was persistent at the abandoned vehicle procedures. It seems they tell you WHATEVER they can to get you to leave them alone. Oh LOOK, lunch time! see ya. LOL

We wanted to wait until we confirmed this process worked before we posted it here.

We met Mr. Bob Conger at Mid-Ohio a few years ago, where he's become a regular.

Bob owns & operates No Bull Used Motorcycle Parts:
www.nobullusedmotorcycleparts.com

If one visits the No Bull page dealing with motor vehicle titles, the process of obtaining a new title for a vintage vehicle, (a barn find, let's say), is described.
www.nobullusedmotorcycleparts.com/titles.html

We bought a barn find '73 Z1 (The Wounded Z) that had not been registered for street use for more than 30 years. The PO had passed away since then. The title was long-lost. The state where the bike had been previously licensed & titled scrubs records after 15 years of inactivity.

With Bob's assistance we were able to obtain a new title for this bike in our state of residence. The cost and effort involved was surprisingly little for such a valuable outcome.

If you have or know of a vintage bike that is languishing for lack of a title, Bob could likely assist in obtaining that most valuable of motor vehicle documents - a clear Motor Vehicle Title.

Good Ridin'
slmjim & Z1BEBE

Anytime I've tried to do this online somewhere, they always tell me the VIN number is incorrect or not the right amount of digits. It's those short numbers from many years ago where we don't have 17 digits. It would be nice to know if an old garage sale/estate sale, rolling parts bike has a clean title.

Malcolm wrote: I'm new here but would love to hear if any of the membership has any experience with getting a title for an old motorcycle, without any documentation.
We all enjoy the stories of finding exotic bikes and restoring them but no-one seems to address the legal obstacles trying to return these to the road. Here in North Carolina it is simply amazing the amount of misinformation that exists within the DMV. They just don't know and are free to misinform without consequence.
I will prevail and when I do I'll share the lessons I've learned.

There is a way and Ive done it for a few of my friends. I dont want to give out to many details, but you need to know someone who lives in....letst just say a northeastern state near Massachusettes - and NOT Vermont.. After that its easy. Vermont is lame. Ive registered 3 untitled bikes this way.

Thats all I can say

650Dude wrote: There is a way and Ive done it for a few of my friends. I dont want to give out to many details, but you need to know someone who lives in....letst just say a northeastern state near Massachusettes - and NOT Vermont.. After that its easy. Vermont is lame. Ive registered 3 untitled bikes this way.

Thats all I can say

Your post serves no purpose. It contains no useful content.

You make an unsubstantiated claim of knowing an alternate method of obtaining a title. You claim without evidence that you have done so. Then you go on to say that one must know "someone" in a northeast state and "after that its [sic] easy". And that "someone" has..., what?

A secret decoder ring from a Cracker Jack box?

IF ... you are aware of a useful alternate method of obtaining a new title for a vintage motorcycle that does not have one, it would be a courtesy to other enthusiasts to share it. Baiting the forum membership with some super-secret :laugh: rumor, then withholding supposedly useful information you claim to posses is likely to only alienate forum members against you while at the same time undermining your credibility.

I have done my due diligence in taking the time, performing the steps and paying the small costs (taxes & registration fees) necessary to successfully obtain a clear title in my state of residence for a '73 Z1 that had no title when I purchased it from another state. I can vouch for the fact that it works, and that the contact info I provided is legitimate and honest. I have freely shared the contact information and process with the forum membership for the benefit of other enthusiasts.

You have written nothing of value to move this thread forward.

You claim Vermont is lame?

dude, read your fairy tale through our eyes.


Good Ridin'
slmjim

I know a guy who knows a guy.....

Edit: sorry, forgot that this VT info was already posted. Oh well...


Vermont doesn't give titles for older bikes so I've heard of guys registering their bike there and then taking the paperwork to their local DMV and using that to get title and registration in their own state. I believe there are title companies that will assist for a fee.

www.chinonthetank.com/2014/04/get-a-titl...ermont-registration/

Looks like theses guys will do the paperwork for you for a few hundred if you wanted to go that route . Havent used them myself but looks like a good option .

www.motorecyclenow.com/

SlimJim

Lets say I do know a way, which I do, but dont want it plastered all over the net. The wise thing to do is for someone to INBOX me. No need for wisecracks and derisive comments. Im a happy person so snide comments dont generally spew forth from me.
However I realize that some ppl have a lot of time on their hands and look for battles or skirmishes to vent lingering subconscious frustrations. Im am not definitively stating I believe you fit into this category. But....

I mean, people can be stupid and buy into the internet culture of revealing every damn thing on line about yourself,, what you know etc but I dont, and particularly on this issue.

I have put out there that I know a way and have helped a few friends get titles. . A 1972 Honda that I bought didnt have a title. It sat in a garage. I then bought another bike WITH a title from someone in that state I mentioned and they said "hey did you know you can get that bike in your garage titled if you do such and such?!"

BINGO. Thats how I found out. If anyone wants to talk about it, they can private message me, as ppl often do when someone has something for sale or something they plan on giving away and they want to further discuss..

AND the person in this post who NEEDS the info has ALREADY gotten a private message from me, so Ive done my part.

tah tah

Nessism wrote: Edit: sorry, forgot that this VT info was already posted. Oh well...


Vermont doesn't give titles for older bikes so I've heard of guys registering their bike there and then taking the paperwork to their local DMV and using that to get title and registration in their own state. I believe there are title companies that will assist for a fee.

www.chinonthetank.com/2014/04/get-a-titl...ermont-registration/

In a nutshell that 's exactly how it works.

VT is a registration state for older vehicles. VT issues a registration that can be used for title acquisition in an indivisual's state of residence. It worked perfectly for us on The Wounded Z.