1976 KZ400-S2 Cafe/Brat

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24 Sep 2015 05:57 - 24 Sep 2015 06:27 #691705 by ZeffRides
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Kidkawie wrote: If it's just clogged, I use a set of micro drill bits or a torch tip cleaner to clean them out.


I actually lost one of them :S

1976 KZ750B1
1978 CB750K
2002 BMW 530i 5-speed
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24 Sep 2015 07:31 #691723 by ThatGPzGuy
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Have you tried Z1? You may want to get one of them on the phone.
Too bad we lost the KZ400 forum. Lots of good info on jetting there.

Jim
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1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
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2001 KZ1000P
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24 Sep 2015 09:17 #691736 by ZeffRides
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ThatGPzGuy wrote: Have you tried Z1? You may want to get one of them on the phone.
Too bad we lost the KZ400 forum. Lots of good info on jetting there.


I haven't yet. I've got my carbs at a local shop right now in the ultrasonic cleaner. He thinks he has a pilot jet there and if not he says he knows a guy who should have one.

1976 KZ750B1
1978 CB750K
2002 BMW 530i 5-speed

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25 Sep 2015 01:51 - 25 Sep 2015 02:00 #691835 by ThatGPzGuy
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Here's Ivan's old site in case you don't have it linked.
www.kz400.com/index.html
Lot's of good information on there still.

I'll look in my 400 parts bin and see if I have one.

Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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27 Sep 2015 16:29 #692212 by ZeffRides
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Progress update #2

Finished cleaning up the carbs and got them all put back together. All I need is to replace my rubber pilot jet plug. Already found the pieces to rebuild the petcock, which should be here in the next couple days and also got some high quality fuel lines. I checked out the tank and was pleased to find very little rust, almost negligible, so that saves me a lot of time.

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I checked the compression of the engine a few days ago - 130lbs on each side, pretty good! However I don't believe I am getting any form of a spark :( , not that I could see anyways (grounded the plug to the frame to initiate a spark). I will begin to diagnose that issue tomorrow working from the points up to the coil after i double check all connections.

1976 KZ750B1
1978 CB750K
2002 BMW 530i 5-speed
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27 Sep 2015 18:21 #692230 by loudhvx
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You did a great job on those carbs! Thank you!

In order to check for spark you have to have both plug bodies touching the engine (or each other, or some other piece of metal) because both plugs are part of the same current path. If you were checking with one plug connected and the other plug wire totally unconnected, you will probably not get spark, and might damage the coil.
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27 Sep 2015 18:38 #692237 by ZeffRides
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loudhvx wrote: In order to check for spark you have to have both plug bodies touching the engine (or each other, or some other piece of metal) because both plugs are part of the same current path. If you were checking with one plug connected and the other plug wire totally unconnected, you will probably not get spark, and might damage the coil.


I did my best! Okay I will recheck tomorrow doing that. My knowledge of the lector all system is poor, so I'm trying to figure it all out. I've researched the point system but apparently I need to do some more reading.

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1978 CB750K
2002 BMW 530i 5-speed

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29 Sep 2015 03:28 #692456 by ZeffRides
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Should be here by the end of the week so I'll try it out and also get new points just for good measure.

1976 KZ750B1
1978 CB750K
2002 BMW 530i 5-speed

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04 Oct 2015 12:55 #693311 by ZeffRides
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Quick update:
Finally got the bike started yesterday. This was after getting a new ignition coil, which still didn't solve my no spark problem. Checked to see if the battery was delivering power to the coil and it wasn't. So I traced the connections to it and found a faulty connection, replaced it, and wahlah! Nice bright blue spark!

Got it to run but it had to be on half choke in order to keep running. Float height and idle mixture screws need to be adjusted for sure but since I'm tearing it down to the frame for a repaint I didn't want to spend the time on it until I've got all that terrible paint off. Next stop - soda blaster!

1976 KZ750B1
1978 CB750K
2002 BMW 530i 5-speed

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04 Oct 2015 14:29 #693323 by 650ed
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Do you have the stock air box and filter installed? Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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04 Oct 2015 14:33 #693325 by dom2570
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To get that bike to run right, your going to need the airbox, or be a carb tuning wizard.

Whip it like a mule!

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04 Oct 2015 14:40 #693329 by ZeffRides
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Yes i had the stock airbox installed when I had it running, I once put pod filters on a '08 Ninja 250 that I had and it was a nightmare trying to get it jetted correctly so I'm avoiding that issue with this bike. I honestly didn't even bench sync them so that could solve some of my issues and give me a starting point. I also noticed my carb pistons were sticking a little bit so I need to polish those up before I start to assemble the bike after painting.

1976 KZ750B1
1978 CB750K
2002 BMW 530i 5-speed

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