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14 Feb 2010 05:11 #348183
by Old Man Rock
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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Wholly Crapola... those cases came out sweeeeeeeeet!
As for Stan Gardner, wasn't me for I never have spoke with him... I didn't have issues with my crank but I'm only a 1015cc build with .365 cams so no need for weld and balance.... Are you planning to ride this beauty, jump on it here and there or full out balls to the walls racing it...
If truly just riding her strong but not racing it and Larry was kind enough to share his knowledge and experience and stated no need, then you should be golden for the man knows his shit.
As for the CR's, I went with the 29mm for in my build being configured more for low to mid range performance the 29's were the correct size to go with...
BTW, you're going to freaking love those carbs... Easy to jet and the performance you'll receive, no need to even go there just outstanding! Hell if I could do it (jetting) anyone can....
OMR
As for Stan Gardner, wasn't me for I never have spoke with him... I didn't have issues with my crank but I'm only a 1015cc build with .365 cams so no need for weld and balance.... Are you planning to ride this beauty, jump on it here and there or full out balls to the walls racing it...
If truly just riding her strong but not racing it and Larry was kind enough to share his knowledge and experience and stated no need, then you should be golden for the man knows his shit.
As for the CR's, I went with the 29mm for in my build being configured more for low to mid range performance the 29's were the correct size to go with...
BTW, you're going to freaking love those carbs... Easy to jet and the performance you'll receive, no need to even go there just outstanding! Hell if I could do it (jetting) anyone can....
OMR
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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14 Feb 2010 05:22 #348185
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1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
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Hey Porchev, nice work so far, and sorry about your Murphy's Law experiance. I remember going to the parts store with my dad when I was a kid. They had a poster on the wall that said "O'Brian's law states that Murphy was an optimist." I'll never forget that one.
Anyway, it seems that you are my doppleganger. When I started reading your thread, it reminded me of something...Mine! Main differences, the paint, and YOU GOT A RUNNER FOR $400. Mine was $400 too, but not running. Looks like we are approaching a similar project from different angles. I'm learning lots about my future engine build, and if you check out my thread, you'll see similar suspension/frame mods to your plan. You will get some major style points if you pull off that SSS. Better plan on beefing up that frame.
Good luck and we need to see a pic of that car too. I'm intrigued.
Josh
Anyway, it seems that you are my doppleganger. When I started reading your thread, it reminded me of something...Mine! Main differences, the paint, and YOU GOT A RUNNER FOR $400. Mine was $400 too, but not running. Looks like we are approaching a similar project from different angles. I'm learning lots about my future engine build, and if you check out my thread, you'll see similar suspension/frame mods to your plan. You will get some major style points if you pull off that SSS. Better plan on beefing up that frame.
Good luck and we need to see a pic of that car too. I'm intrigued.
Josh
1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
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2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
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14 Feb 2010 10:48 #348242
by porchev914
FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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My mistake dave, I thought I had read about you sending your crank to Stan, but you must have commented on someone else sending theirs and I got it mixed up. As far as my clutch hub backing plate springs - There is no side to side play, but I can kinda spin 2 of the 3 heavier springs. It seams there is some interest in the old Porsche so here is a couple of pics for the inquiring minds.
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14 Feb 2010 10:49 #348243
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1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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14 Feb 2010 10:53 #348245
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KZ810 streetfighter kz/gpz/gsxr
1983 gs1100e
1979 KZ 1000 1428 dragbike project
1974 kawasaki H1 500 sold
1972 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1973 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1982 kz750(sold)
1978 kz650 hardtail(sold)
1975 honda xl250-sold
1971 yamaha R5-sold
1982 yamaha xs400
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nice, just a mild 350 should make that lil bastard haul ass. My bud has a vortec 350 in a mazda rx-7, and another bud is starting a datsun v8 project
KZ810 streetfighter kz/gpz/gsxr
1983 gs1100e
1979 KZ 1000 1428 dragbike project
1974 kawasaki H1 500 sold
1972 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1973 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1982 kz750(sold)
1978 kz650 hardtail(sold)
1975 honda xl250-sold
1971 yamaha R5-sold
1982 yamaha xs400
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14 Feb 2010 11:04 #348247
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1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE
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looks like you could hand the odd snobby 911 owner their ass with that little buggy.
1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE
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14 Feb 2010 11:39 - 14 Feb 2010 11:49 #348252
by porchev914
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1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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You are correct TimeBomb, and I have done just that.....I have even held off a Viper in this sled. You're right Jordan a mild engine is quite potent in light little cars like this, but this engine is not exactly mild. With a short circle track cam, aftermarket heads, MSD 6 series ignition and the Mighty Demon 750 double pumpe,r it's estimated by the engine builder (based on previous builds) at around 410-420 hp. With poor traction I have done a 4.5 sec. 0-60. With good traction I estimate sub 4's. The car weighs 2360 pounds with a half a tank of fuel. I probably should have gone more mild with the engine, but whats the fun in that?
Testerossa, I have read your thread more than once, and I would agree, we are on similar paths. You are lucky enough to have a complete donor bike though, I'll have to piece my stuff together. I suppose its the price I'm paying for getting a runner for 4 bills? I will most definately beef up the frame, and will be asking for some guidence on that when the time comes. The Triumph SSSA is 285mm wide at the pivot. I believe our frames are 245mm wide at the pivot area, requiring and extra 40mm or 1.57" of frame width. These are preliminary numbers (I don't have the swingarm yet), and I'm focusing on the engine first, then I'll get to front and rear end.
Testerossa, I have read your thread more than once, and I would agree, we are on similar paths. You are lucky enough to have a complete donor bike though, I'll have to piece my stuff together. I suppose its the price I'm paying for getting a runner for 4 bills? I will most definately beef up the frame, and will be asking for some guidence on that when the time comes. The Triumph SSSA is 285mm wide at the pivot. I believe our frames are 245mm wide at the pivot area, requiring and extra 40mm or 1.57" of frame width. These are preliminary numbers (I don't have the swingarm yet), and I'm focusing on the engine first, then I'll get to front and rear end.
FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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14 Feb 2010 17:11 #348298
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76 KZ900LTD
82 GPz750R1
01 VULCAN 800A-CHOPPED
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77 RD 400 Cafe
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I like the 914, thanks for the pic's! I have a 91 MR2, that someday will house a S/C V-6.
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14 Feb 2010 17:26 #348300
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1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
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Porchev,
There's nothing wrong with that car that a good coat of paint can't fix. I bet that is a fun little ride. I didn't realize that you could get a SBC in a 914. I bet you get some looks when you pull up next to people at lights. You never hear a 914 unless it has an exhaust leak.
As for the bike, you definantly have your work cut out for you. I would think that you need to widen the frame, don't try to cut down on the width of the swingarm pivot. Those SSS's have some twisting moments that a dual side naturally overcomes. You need all of the width at the pivot that you can get. I can't wait to see the KZ1000 monoposto!
Cheers
Josh
There's nothing wrong with that car that a good coat of paint can't fix. I bet that is a fun little ride. I didn't realize that you could get a SBC in a 914. I bet you get some looks when you pull up next to people at lights. You never hear a 914 unless it has an exhaust leak.
As for the bike, you definantly have your work cut out for you. I would think that you need to widen the frame, don't try to cut down on the width of the swingarm pivot. Those SSS's have some twisting moments that a dual side naturally overcomes. You need all of the width at the pivot that you can get. I can't wait to see the KZ1000 monoposto!
Cheers
Josh
1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
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14 Feb 2010 19:32 #348334
by porchev914
FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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Thanks BadDad, I loved those little MR2's, they are fun cool little cars that handle good. Add 100% more power and you'll have a bitchin little sleeper.
Josh, :laugh: Exhaust leaks! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: So true! I can say that more than one person has yelled at me on the freeway (usually a volkswagon driver) and asked what beast I had under the bonnet. I would also get the occasional "what do you got in that thing?" at stop lights.
I had absolutely no plans to modify the swingarm in any way. All changes required will be made to the frame including gusseting and subframe repositioning. I'm with you, the one or two SSSA KZ's I've seen made me cream my pants :ohmy: So I'm gonna build my own pants creamer!
Josh, :laugh: Exhaust leaks! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: So true! I can say that more than one person has yelled at me on the freeway (usually a volkswagon driver) and asked what beast I had under the bonnet. I would also get the occasional "what do you got in that thing?" at stop lights.
I had absolutely no plans to modify the swingarm in any way. All changes required will be made to the frame including gusseting and subframe repositioning. I'm with you, the one or two SSSA KZ's I've seen made me cream my pants :ohmy: So I'm gonna build my own pants creamer!
FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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14 Feb 2010 19:40 #348337
by testarossa
1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
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You do your own welding?
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14 Feb 2010 22:10 #348379
by porchev914
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:ohmy: I do my own welding. I have read many hundreds of threads on KZR, and everytime someone mentions structural welding, someone else will caution that person about safety and structural integrity. I expect to recieve those same cautions from concerned board members. Its cool, I mean hey, isn't that why we're here? To tell knowledgable others what we are doing and benifit from the collective wisdom and experience?
Now, the task at hand - Mr. APE owner was supposed to finish honing my cylinder this weeked, and it should be ready to pick up tomorrow.
I do encourage any other comments or questions, even if it is about my other projects
Adam
Now, the task at hand - Mr. APE owner was supposed to finish honing my cylinder this weeked, and it should be ready to pick up tomorrow.
I do encourage any other comments or questions, even if it is about my other projects
Adam
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