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04 Apr 2008 06:20 #204175 by 531blackbanshee
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surely there has been some kinda progress made on this project to report hasn't there?:laugh:

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04 Apr 2008 11:15 #204221 by mark1122
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how did it handle with the zx7 forks,and the high rear end? it must have around 22* of rake?

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
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04 Apr 2008 15:20 #204286 by Bad Kaw
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531blackbanshee wrote:

surely there has been some kinda progress made on this project to report hasn't there?:laugh:


Oooooooch...:lol: ...gettin' called out here! I was trying to make it thru winter quietly until summer got here...but noooooo! (:P )

Yes, actually one little thing, but I hesitate to talk about it.
I scored HUGE on eBay and picked up a brand new Corbin Gunfighter and Lady and back-rest for $50:ohmy: . I didn't want to say anything b/c I suppose some *ahem* fellow riders in this neighborhood may have 'meant' to out-bid me, but missed the opportunity. The seller ended the auction in the middle of the college football "#1 plays #2" game and miraculusly I pulled one off. Heck I didn't think I'd get it so I didn't even bother to check, when I got to my email the seller had dropped me a TON of emails asking me if I wanted it. I sort of freaked out a bit b/c I bid way over $50 and then I saw I got it on the cheap and the seller told me that several intentional bidders had contacted him with "offers"...B) woopsy.
Anyway, he nailed me good on shipping, but wtf, I don't mind... it's in a box, looks semi-cool on the bike, guess I could shoot that...?...B)

78 Kawasaki Z1R
81 Kawasaki KZ1000J (mods)
82 Kawasaki ELR Clone (1000 J)
82 Kawasaki KZ750R1/GPz750 ELR-ed
70 Kawasaki KV75
83 Honda CB1100F (few mods)
79 Suzuki GS1000 (rolling frame / project / junk)
84 Suzuki GS1150ES (modified project)
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04 Apr 2008 15:24 #204287 by Bad Kaw
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mark1122 wrote:

how did it handle with the zx7 forks,and the high rear end? it must have around 22* of rake?


Hey Mark,
I haven't ridden this one, yet; but my other 'J' with 17"s I have ridden, and the rake isn't anywhere near 22*
I have a degree dial indicator, if I get a chance I'll measure and let you know.

On my other 'J' it handled WORLDS better than it used to...just no comparison at all...and it's the same set-up except for the Ohlins rear shocks (which - admittedly - do raise the ride height a bit). I'll check and let you know as soon as I can...at work right now.

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78 Kawasaki Z1R
81 Kawasaki KZ1000J (mods)
82 Kawasaki ELR Clone (1000 J)
82 Kawasaki KZ750R1/GPz750 ELR-ed
70 Kawasaki KV75
83 Honda CB1100F (few mods)
79 Suzuki GS1000 (rolling frame / project / junk)
84 Suzuki GS1150ES (modified project)
83 Yamaha XJ900R (project / junk)

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10 Apr 2008 10:46 - 10 Apr 2008 11:28 #205441 by mark1122
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curious to know how long the rear shocks are to ? i noticed my chain has been hitting the bottom of my motor mount. i have a 5/8" offset sprocket. if i raise the rear by moving the shock mounts it will help but then the rake will increase up front. it seams that if u raise the rear 1 inch the rake goes down about 1 degree.
is that a zx7 front fender too?

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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12 Apr 2008 09:31 - 12 Apr 2008 09:32 #205922 by Bad Kaw
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Hey Mark!
It's either a ZX7 or a ZX9 front fender...I think it's a 7.

My Ohlins are 15" on the bike center-to-center with nobody on the bike. The GPz1100 shocks are 13.5" center-to-center with nobody on the bike. A thing that may make the Clone bike (with Ohlins) look steeper is that the front forks are currently ZX7R forks and not the 2.75" longer ZX9R forks. I will be installing the 9 forks as soon as I can; it will be for ground clearence issues, not handling issues. I havn't sampled the 7R forks, yet so I can't make a subjective comparison...as the 'clone' will have the wife on from time to time I suspect that I'll need the 9 forks at any rate...to compensate for her buff little 104lb butt! (yum!) :)

I am also kicking around just swapping front ends from my 'J' hot-rod (don't know what to call it) and my 'J' Clone. That would steepen the hot-rod up a bit, and get me one step closer to finishing the clone. It'd also probably work out better b/c I have a set of PM wheels for the 'hot rod' that includes rotors, calipers, and caliper re-locating plates.

I dunno man; what do you guys think. At the moment I'm ramping up for finals and we're house shopping...could I get any busier???...

78 Kawasaki Z1R
81 Kawasaki KZ1000J (mods)
82 Kawasaki ELR Clone (1000 J)
82 Kawasaki KZ750R1/GPz750 ELR-ed
70 Kawasaki KV75
83 Honda CB1100F (few mods)
79 Suzuki GS1000 (rolling frame / project / junk)
84 Suzuki GS1150ES (modified project)
83 Yamaha XJ900R (project / junk)
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21 Apr 2008 00:51 #207947 by RoyNor
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Have you chosen any swing?
I am in the same dilemma here, I hoped you could lead me some way. :laugh:

With that Busa swing I have is the problem the bracing, its to large. After whats been said from some that tried.
ZRX swing is maybe the next...

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26 Apr 2008 22:49 - 26 Apr 2008 22:52 #209380 by Bad Kaw
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Get a gixxer arm. You can brace an un-braced example, just take care of the width of the front of the arm where the swing-arm pivot bolt goes. ZX7 (not talking about ZRX) arms flare out too quickly, so don't look at them. I have heard that ZX9 arms will work...I have no personal experience. But, even some of the latest model gixxer arms will work. I'd look for arms from the post 'slab-side' models and all the way thru the 90s. The early 90s stuff is your best bet.

ALSO: Get a complete back clip if you can...piecing the rear suspension together is why my GS1150ES is still at the shop...waiting for custom cut spacers...don't ask. Just get everything from the swing-arm pivot bolt on back (wheel, rotor, cush-drive, caliper and bracket...all of it). Then all you have to worry about is shock mounts and the swing-arm pivot fitting.

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78 Kawasaki Z1R
81 Kawasaki KZ1000J (mods)
82 Kawasaki ELR Clone (1000 J)
82 Kawasaki KZ750R1/GPz750 ELR-ed
70 Kawasaki KV75
83 Honda CB1100F (few mods)
79 Suzuki GS1000 (rolling frame / project / junk)
84 Suzuki GS1150ES (modified project)
83 Yamaha XJ900R (project / junk)
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19 May 2008 10:40 #214556 by mark1122
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I used the zrx12 arm. i bought the whole rear end. it was an easy swap.on my kz900.

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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21 May 2008 16:16 - 21 May 2008 16:17 #214978 by Bad Kaw
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Did you have any problems with anything lining up? Swing arm pivot, shock mounts, or anything? Seems like a guy gets around a LOT of problems when you get a complete assembly. I finally got my 1150 back from my buddy (who owns a shop) as my 'piece meal' approach had created a lot of hurdles for us...who knew all the gixxer 750/1100 air/oil cooled stuff from 89 - 92 wouldn't swap around? ...F-ing Suzukis anyway... :p

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78 Kawasaki Z1R
81 Kawasaki KZ1000J (mods)
82 Kawasaki ELR Clone (1000 J)
82 Kawasaki KZ750R1/GPz750 ELR-ed
70 Kawasaki KV75
83 Honda CB1100F (few mods)
79 Suzuki GS1000 (rolling frame / project / junk)
84 Suzuki GS1150ES (modified project)
83 Yamaha XJ900R (project / junk)
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21 May 2008 16:40 #214986 by mark1122
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It wasnt too bad really. Hears my project page.
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76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
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21 May 2008 21:01 #215018 by Bad Kaw
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AH, YES! Man, every since the "reformatting" of the site I've gotten a bit lost on the threads for some reason...I'm totally familiar with your (superb!) bike, and I can't wait to see the new front end on it! Lookin' good!

After this weekend I should be able to get started on the 'Clone' and hopefully see completion before a couple upcoming events.

-KR

78 Kawasaki Z1R
81 Kawasaki KZ1000J (mods)
82 Kawasaki ELR Clone (1000 J)
82 Kawasaki KZ750R1/GPz750 ELR-ed
70 Kawasaki KV75
83 Honda CB1100F (few mods)
79 Suzuki GS1000 (rolling frame / project / junk)
84 Suzuki GS1150ES (modified project)
83 Yamaha XJ900R (project / junk)

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