I found a GS1100E swing arm finally If I wanted to install a wider rim what would it be off of ? Also If I wanted spoke wheels and keep my double brakes on the front would KZ1000 wheels fit/ Are the rim widths are the same as stock KZ650c mags ,, ?? :whistle:

I think I'll try that broom stick mock up idea.. I do have a riser thing that moves my handle bars foward, but If I twist my bars up a little bit, I feel like Im sitting too high above the bike.

Dan0z7five0: I like your seat ! I want to try something like that on my bike. I'll have to find a used seat.

Where would I get a 2" longer swingarm for my bike ?

I'm wondering what struts are too ?

I dont know what kind of exahust I have. It doesent look like anything special the header seems like a common one, I see everyone has. The muffler - it almost looks like it belongs on a VW BAJA. It is clamped on the Header. I can take a better pic if you are intrested.

If I lower my bike, I'll have to get exhaust that'll give me more clearance. What other options do I have besides a sidewinder exhaust ?

Hello everybody.
I'm Seth
Thanks to everybody involved in this site for all the help and ideas you have given me . my bike thanks you too
My kz's name is kriztine (cuz all my friends laughed at her when i first got her and shes takin over my life).
She's my first. I always said if I ever got a bike it would be a KZ!
She was a stock '81 kz750ltd with 4800 miles that I stole for $100!:whistle: I was told that she hadn't been ridden in 15 years. Garage kept for the first 12 and outside under a tarp the last three.Poorgirl
Now she's gettin a makeover:evil:
Things i've done-
swing arm extended 8"
pods
wrapped kerker 4-1
tail section (i dont know what year but i'm sure it's kz)
side covers
197?-8? GPZ? gas tank (i love that shape)
clubmans (i dont like em at all)
I know there is more but i'm at a loss.
Things to do-
finish the exhaust. waitin on shims from ebay.
finish rearset. i'm still workin out the details.
custom fiberglass seat. waitin on warmer weather.
figure out the *#@&*! shocks. There has to be a way!
I NEED 36mm CLIPONS!!! anyone? anyone?
Chain
jet kit.
lights.
paint. shake, rattle, and roll!
And more, and more!!
thanks for readin my first forum post ever!
seth . wiccadogg is my dog's name

Hello everybody.
I'm Seth
Thanks to everybody involved in this site for all the help and ideas you have given me . my bike thanks you too
My kz's name is kriztine (cuz all my friends laughed at her when i first got her and shes takin over my life).
She's my first. I always said if I ever got a bike it would be a KZ!
She was a stock '81 kz750ltd with 4800 miles that I stole for $100!:whistle: I was told that she hadn't been ridden in 15 years. Garage kept for the first 12 and outside under a tarp the last three.Poorgirl
Now she's gettin a makeover:evil:
Things i've done-
swing arm extended 8"
pods
wrapped kerker 4-1
tail section (i dont know what year but i'm sure it's kz)
side covers
197?-8? GPZ? gas tank (i love that shape)
clubmans (i dont like em at all)
I know there is more but i'm at a loss.
Things to do-
finish the exhaust. waitin on shims from ebay.
finish rearset. i'm still workin out the details.
custom fiberglass seat. waitin on warmer weather.
figure out the *#@&*! shocks. There has to be a way!
I NEED 36mm CLIPONS!!! anyone? anyone?
Chain
jet kit.
lights.
paint. shake, rattle, and roll!
And more, and more!!
thanks for readin my first forum post ever!
seth . wiccadogg is my dog's name

Hi, since I'm trying to upgrade to as many zx or aftermarket parts as possible:laugh: I'm having leftover kz parts, and a hole in my wallet. I was thinking of selling them on ebay, but I'm not exactly sure what kind of prices I should be trying to get, maybe you guys can give me a general idea of what I should be hoping to get. This is all coming from my 77 650B. I have the rear spoked wheel with drum brakes( new pads last fall) (tire is shot hahaha my fault, its getting thrown out), cush drive, sprocket carrier w sprocket, swingarm, chain adjusters, jugs, cams, and the rest have to checked out before I decide to sell or not (3 pistons, clutch plates, clutch springs).
I'll get some pics up in the next couple days, and maybe some people can comment on some ball park figures, thanks a lot

should this be in chit chat? I'm not sure:unsure:

Post edited by: 77KZ650, at: 2006/02/28 01:40

I recommend you leave the swingarm and drive shaft on the bike. The swingarm is fairly hard to remove as the pivots get semi-welded into the bearings which in all liklihood will still be just fine otherwise. The first step is to remove the four bolts holding the final drive (at rear wheel). Then, push the rubber shroud over the front part of the shaft near the bevel gear case. Locate the SMALL hole as there is a spring loaded pin and despress the in while pulling to the rear on the shaft. The shaft will just remain IN the swingarm till reassembly. I would also leave the bevel gear case on the engine. The manual may advise removing it but this is to reduce weight. The bevel gear gasket may not be all that easy to find and as I said, I would leave the case in place so as not to disturb the gasket unless work needs to be done in this area. If that is the case, a NEW gasket will have to be fabricated. You can remove the engine with the bike on centerstand the rear wheel removed with no problems as far as balance and stability go.

Also, remember that the rear axle is larger diameter on the KZ1000 and your Kz650 wheel will no longer fit the new kZ1000 arm axle-wise - you will need new larger bearings and axle, or use a KZ1000 rear wheel set up like I did. Same for brake caliper axle hole if you are disc. Will also have to check your brake stay arm length. I basically went with a whole KZ1000 rear wheel and caliper brake set up so it all went in the KZ1000 arm just fine

The KZ1000 arm is a bit beefier, about 0.1 diameter larger tubular sections and about 1 1/2 inch longer than the 650 arm. not sure if it buys a whole lot for the bike performance, but it basically allowed me to go to KZ1000 rear disc set up so it was an enabler for me and a good project

Not sure about 79 650 but is not a direct swap on 78 650 and I would expect them to be the same - I just did a swap with a 78 650 using a 77 KZ1000 arm. After taking the end seals of, the 77 KZ1000 arm was 9 inches wide at the pivot, exactly 5/32 wider than my KZ650 arm at the same area - you have to grind down the arm or the frame to make it fit. I trimmed the arm and it went very easy - lots of stuff here in the archives, is good to do a search and soak it all up, I will be glad to answer any questions that you might still have. Important to keep the ends square to the pivot and go slow and only trim exactly what you need off and no more

You also have to take out or push the needle bearing out of the way into the pivot tube farther before trimming, (wash it all woth solvent copiously later if you leave it in - but I would recommend taking it out first), and trim down the bearing inner tube the same amount, and depending on which year KZ1000 donor arm and pivot bolt you used, you may have to get a later KZ1000 pivot bolt with a double bearing machined surface to accomodate the further pushed in needle bearing. The 77 KZ1000 arm pivot bolt that came with my arm only had one row of needle bearings and a limited area machined surface, I believe the 78 and later used two rows

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77KZ650 wrote:

Duck, As far a my interpretation of a streetfighter goes, its a classic bike like our KZs, with everything upgraded:) such as big bore kits, chassis mods, suspension off of new sport bikes, everything that could make an old bike work waaay better than it was ever intended to:) :evil:

Neil, I'm in the process of fitting some ZX stuff to my 650, I should have some updates and hopefully pics by early next week. also check out the "looking for diagram" , "how did you grind the frame for swingarm" , and the "ZX swingarm and shock" threads.

A good writing, but that's not really a streetfighter. Though you are building what I would consider to be a streetfighter influenced bike. I like the idea. That's why I'm in the midst of building one as well!

A streetfighter is quite literally the modern version of the bike builds based on the concepts of cafe racers of the 50's-70's.

You take a newer frame (usually custom for a really good streetfighter... Spondon, Harris, etc.), cram a really friggin big engine in it, lighten it up, add a few personal touches, and you have a streetfighter.

A few common things on them?

1) SINGLE PERSON
2) Superbike bars (on a sportbike front end)
3) A LOT of Gixxer based fighters
4) Kicked asses (high rear end)
5) Polished/Chromed parts
6) Wild paint jobs
7) Bug eye/MIG lamps
Color matching

It's basically a really modified sportbike with the aesthetic "oohs and ahhhs" of the chopper world.

Example:



This bike in specific is a very popular streetfighter. If I remember correctly the bike is called "Hans Stahl" and is owned by a guy in a streetfighter club in Germany. PERFECT example of a streetfighter.

NEIL:

There's a way to make anything work, you just need to figure it out. Keep an eye out on the forums and ask specific questions while you go and you can sort anything out

Dave Sloan wrote:

Hi Guys, isnt the important part the sleeve that runs through the swingarm, with it being clamped between the swingarm pivots in the frame?
I would shorten the swing arm tube that the bearings are in as much as I could and then shorten the pivot tube that runs through the arm as it can be fitted in a lathe and machined true easier than the pivot of the frame and only grind the frame if more clearance was needed.
What do you recon?

I may be wrong on this, but I don't think he's looking forward to costs to have things machined.

Have you ever ground out the interior pivots on the frame?

As aformentioned it's a small cylinder put thru the frame and welded on.

Whats that mean? As long as you don't grind the weld away you will be fine shortening it.