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Replied by rstnick on topic 77 kz650c rims on 1979 kz650b
14 Apr 2006 10:54
rstnick
Welcome to KZR.
Your right, the front master cyl. is different, and you'll need to mount a rear master cyl. The swing arms are a little different as to the torque arm mount. As well the '77 has bushings in the swing arm and the '79 has bearings, but that can be swapped either way.
The front disks may be a different thickness, and you will need 2 calipers up front if your going that route. All possable, and been done. You may find some info in the Archive section on this.
Your right, the front master cyl. is different, and you'll need to mount a rear master cyl. The swing arms are a little different as to the torque arm mount. As well the '77 has bushings in the swing arm and the '79 has bearings, but that can be swapped either way.
The front disks may be a different thickness, and you will need 2 calipers up front if your going that route. All possable, and been done. You may find some info in the Archive section on this.
Replied by twowheeledterror on topic Custom See Thru clutch cover NOW WITH PICS! UPDATE 1-11-06
14 Apr 2006 07:19
twowheeledterror
The Fish wrote:
No, see Fish, you seem to lack the intelligence to actually pick up the point I'm laying out here.
Every project, until it's fully completed, is unfinished. Edited by KZCSI (name calling)
The point is that I can finish them at any time, but in the current state of things there's no reason to hustle to get those two specific things done. Think about it you knob... why rush to finish the tank? There's no engine for it to hold gas for at the moment. Why rush to finish the clutch cover? Again, no engine. Those are both things that I got as far on as I needed to at the moment... which was far enough to see if they can be done... and they can. When the time comes that I'm a little closer to needing them finished I'll get around to it. Apparently you don't comprehend the concept of prioritization. Edited by KZCSI (overt insult)
Things that are done? Well... sub-frame, rearset adapters, gussets, mounting the swingarm, adapting the ZX7 shock and older ZX9 lower pivot to work together, tie rods, etc.... not to mention that the KZ650 I'm riding has a bunch of stuff done to it and it's on the road.
Here's the real matter at hand though... I frankly don't give two craps if you approve or not little guy. Edited by KZCSI (blatent insult)
Like I said, this is my bike and I work on things in the order and at a pace that I think is appropriate.
You want to whine and shit in your huggies about bikes not being built fast enough? Well then, get the parts and build one of your own. :thumbup:
Post edited by: KZCSI, at: 2006/04/15 08:34
Post edited by: KZCSI, at: 2006/04/15 08:37
twowheeledterror wrote:The Fish wrote:Some people thought he was the greatest when he first posted this and other post, but time has a way of bringing out the truth.
Fish<br><br>Post edited by: The Fish, at: 2006/04/14 06:44
The engine was definitely not going to be done in time to ride this month or this spring <br><br>Post edited by: twowheeledterror, at: 2006/04/14 09:32
WOW, now thats a surprize. Another unfinished project?
And Again: Dont tell me what your going to do, Show me what you've done.
I havent seen anything that you have finished.
Why dont you post a link to the other site that has all these mods that you are talking about.
Would it be www.ProjectsThatNeverGetDone.com ?
Fish
No, see Fish, you seem to lack the intelligence to actually pick up the point I'm laying out here.
Every project, until it's fully completed, is unfinished. Edited by KZCSI (name calling)
The point is that I can finish them at any time, but in the current state of things there's no reason to hustle to get those two specific things done. Think about it you knob... why rush to finish the tank? There's no engine for it to hold gas for at the moment. Why rush to finish the clutch cover? Again, no engine. Those are both things that I got as far on as I needed to at the moment... which was far enough to see if they can be done... and they can. When the time comes that I'm a little closer to needing them finished I'll get around to it. Apparently you don't comprehend the concept of prioritization. Edited by KZCSI (overt insult)
Things that are done? Well... sub-frame, rearset adapters, gussets, mounting the swingarm, adapting the ZX7 shock and older ZX9 lower pivot to work together, tie rods, etc.... not to mention that the KZ650 I'm riding has a bunch of stuff done to it and it's on the road.
Here's the real matter at hand though... I frankly don't give two craps if you approve or not little guy. Edited by KZCSI (blatent insult)
Like I said, this is my bike and I work on things in the order and at a pace that I think is appropriate.
You want to whine and shit in your huggies about bikes not being built fast enough? Well then, get the parts and build one of your own. :thumbup:
Post edited by: KZCSI, at: 2006/04/15 08:34
Post edited by: KZCSI, at: 2006/04/15 08:37
Replied by RetroRiceRocketRider on topic Going from spoke to alloy
13 Apr 2006 21:32
RetroRiceRocketRider
77_650B1 wrote:
'77 KZ650C1 minus top end and engine covers offered to me by a motorist at a stop light = $40.00
Removed the cast wheels, swingarm, the Lockhart oil cooler, both complete brake sytems, cut the rear master cylinder bracket from the frame to have a friedn weld it to my frame = about 2 hours of my time and $3 bucks worth of beer to my friend to weld the bracket to the frame.
Had the worn and stuck swingarm bearings removed and brand new bearings installed = $40 for labor and $21 for the bearings.
Gave the frame to another member here to replace his damaged frame.
Kept the crankcase and complete transmission, but parted the remainder of the bike out on eBay = stuffed just under $700 back into my pocket!
The (long) point I'm trying to make here is, check your local newspaper classifieds, Recycler, Pennysaver, etc for people who either don't know what they have and what it's worth, or who are just trying to get rid of it to make space.
Motorcycle salvage yards are ok for some parts, but cast KZ wheels usually sell for $100+ through them...and that's without discs!
Post edited by: RetroRiceRocketRider, at: 2006/04/14 00:34
Hey guys,
I'm wondering how difficult/pricey it would be to change over to alloys from my spoked rims.
'77 KZ650C1 minus top end and engine covers offered to me by a motorist at a stop light = $40.00
Removed the cast wheels, swingarm, the Lockhart oil cooler, both complete brake sytems, cut the rear master cylinder bracket from the frame to have a friedn weld it to my frame = about 2 hours of my time and $3 bucks worth of beer to my friend to weld the bracket to the frame.
Had the worn and stuck swingarm bearings removed and brand new bearings installed = $40 for labor and $21 for the bearings.
Gave the frame to another member here to replace his damaged frame.
Kept the crankcase and complete transmission, but parted the remainder of the bike out on eBay = stuffed just under $700 back into my pocket!
The (long) point I'm trying to make here is, check your local newspaper classifieds, Recycler, Pennysaver, etc for people who either don't know what they have and what it's worth, or who are just trying to get rid of it to make space.
Motorcycle salvage yards are ok for some parts, but cast KZ wheels usually sell for $100+ through them...and that's without discs!
Post edited by: RetroRiceRocketRider, at: 2006/04/14 00:34
Replied by inline4 on topic KZ1000 & GS1100 Swing Arm question?
13 Apr 2006 08:41
inline4
Allshookup:
The 2 spacers I had made were 4.5mm thick, with an inside diamter of 16mm.
Jim
The 2 spacers I had made were 4.5mm thick, with an inside diamter of 16mm.
Jim
Replied by gas on topic KZ1000 & GS1100 Swing Arm question?
13 Apr 2006 08:31
gas
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6255
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2771
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1057
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29202
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22659
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22928
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22285
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22168
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=20496
There's more, but this should help. Myself, I'd eyeball the threads, then contact the bike owner and get the detailed stuff from him. Good luck.
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2771
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1057
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29202
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22659
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22928
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22285
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22168
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=20496
There's more, but this should help. Myself, I'd eyeball the threads, then contact the bike owner and get the detailed stuff from him. Good luck.
Replied by Allshookup on topic KZ1000 & GS1100 Swing Arm question?
13 Apr 2006 08:02
Allshookup
Thanks inline4,
I have searched the "archives" for hours but I haven't really found much info on the swap for KZ1000. I really don't think the measurements from anything smaller then a 900/1000 would help much.
If anyone has done this swap on a KZ1000 any help would be appreciated, and also don't forget to post pictures.
I would love to see the finished job.
I have searched the "archives" for hours but I haven't really found much info on the swap for KZ1000. I really don't think the measurements from anything smaller then a 900/1000 would help much.
If anyone has done this swap on a KZ1000 any help would be appreciated, and also don't forget to post pictures.
I would love to see the finished job.
Replied by inline4 on topic KZ1000 & GS1100 Swing Arm question?
12 Apr 2006 21:25
inline4
Other things to consider with the swingarm swap is you will have to get your rear wheel centered as well as figuring out what brake system to use. A very good member here, galaxian, did the GS swap on a KZ650. You might search for his posts pertaining to the swap. Very detailed info there.
I'm surprised more members haven't chimed in on this subject. Just need to give them time, everyone here is more than willing to help. Again, good luck.
Jim
I'm surprised more members haven't chimed in on this subject. Just need to give them time, everyone here is more than willing to help. Again, good luck.
Jim
Replied by inline4 on topic KZ1000 & GS1100 Swing Arm question?
12 Apr 2006 09:20
inline4
Is the GS arm the boxed aluminum type? If so it is about 2" longer than the stock KZ900/1000 swingarm. I'm assuming that the police bikes' arms are standard-issue for all the big KZs.
You will have to fabricate a couple of shims to get the GS arm to fit snugly in the Kaw frame. At this time I can't remember the thickness of the two shims that I had made. I'm planning on taking the arm back off my bike ('74Z1A) this weekend so that I can sand and paint it. I'll then measure the shims' thickness and post it here if you haven't determined it for yourself. You and I will also have to remove the small exhaust pipe hanger pieces on each side so that the new arm will have enough up & down travel.
Regarding shocks, I've had a very difficult time finding shocks (used) that will fit. Although I thought that Honda CBX/CB-F shocks would work because of the clevis mount and the length (you will need longer shocks that the GS shocks)the GS shock mounts are just a bit wider than most shocks with the clevis mount. I plan on biting the bullet and buying a set of new shocks from Works Performance or someone like that.
Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
Jim
One more thing, the width of the shock mounts on the GS swingarm is 23mm; your shocks' clevis opening needs to be at least that wide. I hope this helps.
Post edited by: inline4, at: 2006/04/12 12:26
You will have to fabricate a couple of shims to get the GS arm to fit snugly in the Kaw frame. At this time I can't remember the thickness of the two shims that I had made. I'm planning on taking the arm back off my bike ('74Z1A) this weekend so that I can sand and paint it. I'll then measure the shims' thickness and post it here if you haven't determined it for yourself. You and I will also have to remove the small exhaust pipe hanger pieces on each side so that the new arm will have enough up & down travel.
Regarding shocks, I've had a very difficult time finding shocks (used) that will fit. Although I thought that Honda CBX/CB-F shocks would work because of the clevis mount and the length (you will need longer shocks that the GS shocks)the GS shock mounts are just a bit wider than most shocks with the clevis mount. I plan on biting the bullet and buying a set of new shocks from Works Performance or someone like that.
Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
Jim
One more thing, the width of the shock mounts on the GS swingarm is 23mm; your shocks' clevis opening needs to be at least that wide. I hope this helps.
Post edited by: inline4, at: 2006/04/12 12:26
KZ1000 & GS1100 Swing Arm question? was created by Allshookup
12 Apr 2006 08:24
Allshookup
Well here is my question, I have a 1985 KZ1000 Police Bike and would like to do a swing arm swap. I have found a 82 GS1100 swing arm. (I don't own it yet!)
I would like to know if the GS1100 swing arm is longer then a stock KZ1000 Police swing arm.
Also I have a set of progressive shocks and was wondering how difficult it is going to be to use them.
Thanks for the help,
I would like to know if the GS1100 swing arm is longer then a stock KZ1000 Police swing arm.
Also I have a set of progressive shocks and was wondering how difficult it is going to be to use them.
Thanks for the help,
KZ1100 swing arm removal was created by KevZ
11 Apr 2006 10:05
KevZ
Does anybody have a suggestion for removing the pivot shaft from the swingarm? Mine seems to be welded, and I want to paint the frame and replace those bearings......
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