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Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic HollywoodMX's Drouin Supercharged 77 KZ1000!!

31 Dec 2012 13:57
531blackbanshee's Avatar 531blackbanshee
how wide is the pivot of your r1 swingarm?
i am doing an r6 swingarm conversion right now for chonus and i had to mill .3515 off of each side to get it narrow enough to fit it into a kz 1000,plus bore the bearing bore out deeper to move the bearings in to narrow it.


leon

Replied by steell on topic 84 GPZ Mono/KZ 1000 Hack job in Progress

31 Dec 2012 03:21
steell's Avatar steell
I looked for a long time for GPz1100 adjusters, but finally gave up.

84-86 GPz900 swing arm has four needle bearings and two spacers, and that's enough parts to do two GPz750 swing arm conversions, although you still need to make a spacer. I used 3 or 4 propane torches to heat up the swing arm around the bearings, then gently tapped them out, no damage to anything.

Replied by Colorado Z-1 on topic Front Forks, Which one ?

29 Dec 2012 21:07
Colorado Z-1's Avatar Colorado Z-1
Okay ? I am pretty sure I will do the GS1100e rear swing arm set up and dual shocks, most like Koni gas matic's. I want this bike to have as much Vintage flare as possible. so I have to have wire wheels and a disc brake on the rear. The front end can be a bit more modern, still with wires and dual disc brakes. a Fork brace and stock Z-1 fender. So.....SO the question is Do i just buy / find better triple trees or a whole new front fork set up ? I am open for suggestions . Thanks !

Replied by lushbaugh on topic Re-Build / Restoration Checklist(s)??

28 Dec 2012 23:26
lushbaugh's Avatar lushbaugh
Old Man Rock wrote: No doubt Joe....

30 Year old KZ and don't know the history, only one way to really go in my worthless opinion....

Number 1 on the list: OEM SERVICE MANUAL... Study it!

Engine alone:
* Split cases for internal inspections. Replace as required.
Crankshaft/Clutch housing/basket/plates/transmission/gears/oil pump etc...
New clutch plate(s) & springs.

* Complete engine oil seal and gasket kit.... ;)

* Pistons & rings
New rings & cylinder hone at least.
Looking for extra umphka, 1075 piston kit, cylinder boring required.

* Camshafts:
Looking for extra umphka, .365 at least. GPZ1100 OEM cams .375 lift... ;)
Cam degreeing required!

* Valve job: new valves, seals, guides.
Looking for extra umphka, possibly enlarged valves, at least port & polish.

* Timing chain, guides, rollers, idler gear.

Drive Train:
* New chain & sprockets (front & rear)

Carbs:
* Rebuild now doubt.
Looking for extra umphka, smoothbores to go with head P&P.

Frame: if not modding (example mono swing arm), powder coat or paint.

Electrical:
NOTE: Pending operating/charging conditions, test/confirm first.

* Possibly new wiring harness.
* Possibly new stator/Dynamo...
* Possibly new combo rectifier/regulator.

Ignition: coils, plug wire set, ignition plate:
* Dyna S set w/coils/plug wires at least.

Suspension:
* Steering, swing arm, wheel bearings etc...
* Most likely new rear shocks.
* Rebuilt front shocks.

Tank/Plastics:
* Tank rusted thus treatment.
* Paint tank & plastics.
* New petcock.

Brakes:
* Master cylinder clean/rebuilds.
* New pads

New Tires:

New throttle, clutch & brake cables:


Ok, I'm with Joe, my brain is now toasted!.... :laugh:

Post the project w/images... We're picture whores here!

Welcome to the OBSESSED insanity....

very good post, and i cannot agree more if its a bike you plan on keeping and really care about more than just a beater you HAVE to split the cases and know what you got. a true restoration is every nut,bolt,seal, and connector gone over and replaced or reconditioned to oem or better condition.

Replied by Roadflyer on topic turbo time....

28 Dec 2012 18:13
Roadflyer's Avatar Roadflyer
Lorcan wrote: This is the bike that was supposed to be my streetbike, but evolved itself when I joined the (mostly Hayabusa) 200mph.org.uk website in 2002 for a laugh.

810cc Wiseco, Garrett GT22 turbo, RC 370cc injectors, lockup clutch and more modern suspension and wheels.

235hp on the dyno (with a boost leak, probably 250hp+ in reality). 30psi boost.

211.0mph timed at RAF Woodbridge in 2006, with a backup run of 210.2mph.

9.29 sec quarter mile with just a change of gearing. 60" wheelbase.

Used pistons bought from a site member. Ebay front end. Honda Hornet 16" front wheel. GSXR600 swingarm etc...

OK, I'm just trying to learn something here. The original 750 Turbo was about 115 hp ( I wish I had mine back now) and the cylinders and head were designed to shed the heat of that much HP. So, how do you keep it from melting down with the heat made from 250 HP and that big ass aftercooler blocking a portion of the cooling airflow?

BTW, fantastic looking and performing bike!!! My Turbo was 100% stock and a blast to ride as it was.



Replied by Lorcan on topic turbo time....

28 Dec 2012 15:54 - 28 Dec 2012 15:55
Lorcan's Avatar Lorcan
This is the bike that was supposed to be my streetbike, but evolved itself when I joined the (mostly Hayabusa) 200mph.org.uk website in 2002 for a laugh.

810cc Wiseco, Garrett GT22 turbo, RC 370cc injectors, lockup clutch and more modern suspension and wheels.

235hp on the dyno (with a boost leak, probably 250hp+ in reality). 30psi boost.

211.0mph timed at RAF Woodbridge in 2006, with a backup run of 210.2mph.

9.29 sec quarter mile with just a change of gearing. 60" wheelbase.

Used pistons bought from a site member. Ebay front end. Honda Hornet 16" front wheel. GSXR600 swingarm etc...





Replied by Kidkawie on topic Re-Build / Restoration Checklist(s)??

28 Dec 2012 13:53
Kidkawie's Avatar Kidkawie
I've done a few bikes, for a "restoration" I:

1) get the thing running and make sure it shifts through the gears
2) tear the bike down, take photos and put small pieces in marked envelopes
3) send out all the hardware for replating, (probably most important step) also buy some spare hardware from the same era (Ebay) so you have extra. The biggest headache is having clean hardware handy.
4) refinish frame and engine. Depending on original condition, replace some gaskets, etc. Easy to do when engine is out.
5) make an initial parts order, stuff like steering/swingarm bearings, fork seals, wheel bearings, spokes, etc.
6) hopefully, by this time the hardware is back. install the engine and main wiring harness.
7) install suspension. rebuild wheels and install.

For the rest of the bike, just work from the inside out. I like to do sections at a time, so rebuild the wheels in one shot, refinish the bodywork at the same time, etc. Then new/refinished parts can go on the bike without the risk of being lost or damaged.

Keep a list handy of some major or discontinued parts you might need, so when you're browsing Ebay you can buy it.

For a restoration, the hardware is key. Nothing worse than a nice shiny bike with rusty ass bolts.

Replied by Old Man Rock on topic Re-Build / Restoration Checklist(s)??

28 Dec 2012 11:01 - 28 Dec 2012 11:10
Old Man Rock's Avatar Old Man Rock
No doubt Joe....

30 Year old KZ and don't know the history, only one way to really go in my worthless opinion....

Number 1 on the list: OEM SERVICE MANUAL... Study it!

Engine alone:
* Split cases for internal inspections. Replace as required.
Crankshaft/Clutch housing/basket/plates/transmission/gears/oil pump etc...
New clutch plate(s) & springs.

* Complete engine oil seal and gasket kit.... ;)

* Pistons & rings
New rings & cylinder hone at least.
Looking for extra umphka, 1075 piston kit, cylinder boring required.

* Camshafts:
Looking for extra umphka, .365 at least. GPZ1100 OEM cams .375 lift... ;)
Cam degreeing required!

* Valve job: new valves, seals, guides.
Looking for extra umphka, possibly enlarged valves, at least port & polish.

* Timing chain, guides, rollers, idler gear.

Drive Train:
* New chain & sprockets (front & rear)

Carbs:
* Rebuild now doubt.
Looking for extra umphka, smoothbores to go with head P&P.

Frame: if not modding (example mono swing arm), powder coat or paint.

Electrical:
NOTE: Pending operating/charging conditions, test/confirm first.

* Possibly new wiring harness.
* Possibly new stator/Dynamo...
* Possibly new combo rectifier/regulator.

Ignition: coils, plug wire set, ignition plate:
* Dyna S set w/coils/plug wires at least.

Suspension:
* Steering, swing arm, wheel bearings etc...
* Most likely new rear shocks.
* Rebuilt front shocks.

Tank/Plastics:
* Tank rusted thus treatment.
* Paint tank & plastics.
* New petcock.

Brakes:
* Master cylinder clean/rebuilds.
* New pads

New Tires:

New throttle, clutch & brake cables:


Ok, I'm with Joe, my brain is now toasted!.... :laugh:

Post the project w/images... We're picture whores here!

Welcome to the OBSESSED insanity....

Replied by Colorado Z-1 on topic New to this site as of 12-12-12

28 Dec 2012 01:17
Colorado Z-1's Avatar Colorado Z-1
You have me rethinking my thinking here guys, I was looking at the GS1100 swing arm to keep the back looking kinda stock, Lower and longer with vintage wire wheels, but Now I will look into the ZX6R thing. The front end , I can go in any direction at this moment, I want clean and simple, tough and race ready looks. It will all be painted or powder coated. But doing a complete swap might be the ticket...... So please keep talking and I am listening. thank you for you help and useful information . :unsure:

Looking for HELP in ideas & info ! was created by Colorado Z-1

27 Dec 2012 23:54
Colorado Z-1's Avatar Colorado Z-1
B) We're back ! I posted on my first blog about finding information on finding stock or good replacement wire wheel for my KZ1000 (1977) with dual disc. brakes and a single disc brake rear.

Looking for a cool & correct new front forks, with heavy duty triple trees, swap or after market. I like what "Les Holt" posted , that's kinda what I have in mind. BUT ! I still would like to hear what others have done and used, and how they like it.

and lastly is the rear swing arm, I am looking at using the GS1100 swing arm, hows does this work and does anybody know of other swing arms that would work for my application ?

I am building a Cafe' style cruiser, I am planning on cruising mostly, not really going to race it but more cruising around and enjoying the ride. want nice looks and style. Let me know.

Thanks again, if you have any info that could help me, please let me know, Thank you !

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