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Replied by zed1015 on topic Sprocket selection for KZ/GSXR swingarm

19 Jan 2013 09:14 - 19 Jan 2013 09:16
zed1015's Avatar zed1015
Here's a simple method to closely match your current final drive ratio while using the smaller rear wheel.

Measure the circumference of you original wheel/tyre (fully inflated) and divide that figure by the number of teeth on your original rear sprocket.

This will give you a distance travelled per tooth ( i.e 1/2 inch etc )

Now measure the new smaller wheel/tyre circumference and divide that figure by the (1/2" etc) distance travelled figure and that will give you the number of sprocket teeth you need to match your original engine revs to road speed.

You will end up with a smaller amount of teeth on the rear and maybe not exactly by a full tooth but use that odd fraction for the next step.

You now need to divide your new rear tooth count by your front tooth count to calculate the new ratio.

Use that ratio figure to work out the tooth counts for your new sprockets.

The 525 pitch will require more teeth for a given circumference compared to the 630 pitch, so to give adequate clearance for the swingarm pivot etc you may need 16 teeth on the front to equal the diameter of the 630's 13 tooth.


A point to note is that a tooth count of less than 14 teeth will produce a notchy drive and quickly wreck your drive chain due to the angles involved and 15 teeth is generally considered the lowest to use.

Replied by SBK Racer on topic Sprocket selection for KZ/GSXR swingarm

19 Jan 2013 01:03 - 19 Jan 2013 01:07
SBK Racer's Avatar SBK Racer
As far as gearing, if the stock gearing is 13/32 = 2.46 final ratio... You want to match your gearing to your motor and consider the difference in rear tire circumference... You can do this mathematically!

I do not think you will find a 32 tooth GSXR rear sprocket... But you can run a 17/42 for a 2.47 final Ratio... As a base line!!! A 17 tooth front sprocket is 100 times better than a 13 tooth front sprocket....

Now, if the rear tire is 10% smaller then subtract 10% to the final ratio...

Finally consider if you want acceleration or lower cruising RPMS... Personally, I prefer decent acceleration... I would use a 17/43 for a 2.52 final ratio, (Taking into account the smaller rear tire and all).

For the chain, I would buy a 120 link chain, and use what you need...

:) Luis

Replied by w8lifter21 on topic Sprocket selection for KZ/GSXR swingarm

18 Jan 2013 16:15
w8lifter21's Avatar w8lifter21
Awesome thanks Leon. That definitely does help.

Replied by baldy110 on topic KZ1000 Suspension. What have you done to your KZ?

18 Jan 2013 15:02 - 18 Jan 2013 15:03
baldy110's Avatar baldy110
82 GPZ750, with a 1135cc engine. Rear swingarm and shocks from a 2000 ZRX1100, front end is a stock 81 GPZ1100 with a fork brace and progressive suspension fork springs. Thing handles really well.

Replied by SBK Racer on topic KZ1000 Suspension. What have you done to your KZ?

18 Jan 2013 14:54 - 18 Jan 2013 14:57
SBK Racer's Avatar SBK Racer
wireman wrote: That's some serious clearance you got there! :blink:

I know... The swing arm finally has some angle to it, instead of being so flat... Right now the shocks have little pre-load so it sags back down when you seat on it... However, the bike does not squat so noticeably under hard acceleration... In fact the front tire saw some air the other day... :)

Long and flat swing arms seem... Unnatural. (I mean contrary to geometry settings for performance handling)
Derigo wrote:

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2004 gsx-r front and rear swap

This looks really good... Matching wheels go a long way to make the bike look balanced...

Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic Sprocket selection for KZ/GSXR swingarm

18 Jan 2013 14:38
531blackbanshee's Avatar 531blackbanshee
maybe this will help you.

www.gearingcommander.com/

leon

Replied by w8lifter21 on topic Sprocket selection for KZ/GSXR swingarm

18 Jan 2013 11:13
w8lifter21's Avatar w8lifter21
Yeah ill be using the rear GSX-R everything. I was lucky and was able to get everything from the swingarm bolt back as one assembly.......and for $100 :)

Replied by toad on topic Sprocket selection for KZ/GSXR swingarm

18 Jan 2013 02:28
toad's Avatar toad
could use stringline off rear sprocket after tire is perfectly centered.are you using gsxr tire as well?as far as chain length goes I would probably buy the chain with extra links plus the master.

Sprocket selection for KZ/GSXR swingarm was created by w8lifter21

16 Jan 2013 18:48
w8lifter21's Avatar w8lifter21
'82 KZ750 with an '04 GSX-R rear swingarm

So after enough reading and researching I have a firm grasp on what I need to do to get this completed.......except when it comes to the front sprocket and chain.

Three issues I am running into:
-With the swing arm being wider, how do I align the chain with the front sprocket?
-How do I select the number of teeth for the front sprocket to get it as close to the gear ratio as possible?
-How should I calculate chain length?

KZ750 sprockets are 13/32 and uses a 630-84 length chain.
GSX-R sprockets are 16/45 and uses a 525-108 length chain

Replied by steell on topic zx9r forks

15 Jan 2013 23:10
steell's Avatar steell
donthaveakawman wrote: curious if I could get a zx750-e swingarm on my kz750-h1. I know there is a conversion bearing kit for the forks available.

Swing arm will bolt in, and you better take a look at those conversion bearings, I think they both use the same bearings. Put a ZX750A swing arm and forks on a 79 KZ650SR a few years ago, modified the arm to run dual shock.

I don't recommend the ZX750A or E forks, no advantage to them compared to your stock forks.

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