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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 07 Jul 2006 21:20 #60109

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I am preparing to reassemble my engine and have a question regarding the cylinder head washers. According to Kawasaki, I need 4 copper washers and 8 steel washers. I had copper for all 12, but they are $4.00 each from Bike Bandit! Should I go with all copper or is it ok to use the steel on the other 8 studs? Also, does anyone know where these can be bought other than a dealer? I thought APE might offer them with their cylinder head nuts, but I haven't been able to find them. You help would be appreciated.


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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 07 Jul 2006 21:31 #60112

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The 4 coppers go on the 4 corners but I have used copper on all 12 for years.........mod

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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 07 Jul 2006 21:42 #60114

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I used copper washers from www.mcmastercarr.com. Lots cheaper than the dealer price.
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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 25 Jul 2006 17:06 #64679

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Well, I FINALLY got around to measuring my copper washers and got them ordered from Mcmastercarr. They were a little over $1 each vs $4 each from Kaw. I also needed a specialty bolt that they have in stock, so I ordered that too. I just went ahead and got copper for all 12 studs. Thanks for the tips!

Is it OK to re-use cylinder head bolts? Mine are from APE and were never taken apart until now. They don't look too great (rust), but I'm sure I can clean and paint them if they are OK to use again.
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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 25 Jul 2006 17:24 #64684

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savedrider wrote:

I used copper washers from www.mcmastercarr.com. Lots cheaper than the dealer price.


Interesting they are available from mcmastercarr. A good tip. I horde the old copper ones and always use copper on the engines I rebuild. The reason for the copper on the outside studs is the oilways coming up the stud holes in the cylinder block on the outside studs - the copper washer provide a better seal as they crush down (as long as you anneal them).
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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 27 Jul 2006 12:53 #65204

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How and why do you anneal them. Can you reuse a copper head gasket this way?:side:
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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 27 Jul 2006 13:00 #65206

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you anneal them by heating them uo really good and tossing them in a bucket of water.this swells them to origional size and softens them.you can do it with a copper head gasket but its harder to control the thickness .

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Need some opinions please - cyl head washers 28 Jul 2006 13:36 #65462

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I normally hang 2 or 3 together on a long hook made from an old metal coat hanger. Heat them up with a propane torch till they are "cherry red", they will glow bright red, then drop them in a bowl of cold water.

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