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Compression Ratio 29 Nov 2005 06:45 #10871

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If you don't know the compression ratio of an engine, how do you determine it? Assume there is no published info on the engine. TIA.

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Compression Ratio 29 Nov 2005 06:58 #10873

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Put the timing mark on TDC for #1, then measure the amount of gas/oil/kerosene is takes to fill the cylinder. That will give you the compression volume, divide the displacement by the compression volume to obtain the compression ratio.

If it's a stock motor, the specs are probably listed on the web somewhere, so you could use Google and save a lot of mess.

Post edited by: steell, at: 2005/11/29 09:59
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Compression Ratio 29 Nov 2005 13:50 #10929

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steell wrote:

divide the displacement by the compression volume to obtain the compression ratio.


Divide the displacement + the compression volume by the compession volume to obtain the compression ratio.

CR=(piston displacement+combustion chamber volume)/combustion chamber volume

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Compression Ratio 30 Nov 2005 06:35 #11035

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One of the nice things about this place, if I screw up there is always someone that will correct my mistake :D

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Compression Ratio 30 Nov 2005 09:08 #11063

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I was just about to correct that when I scrolled down and saw Rons post.

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Compression Ratio 30 Nov 2005 19:05 #11162

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If stock you might find the info listed here www.bikez.com/brands/index.php
1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust

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Compression Ratio 10 Dec 2005 19:29 #12564

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It will still only give an approximate as you also need to know the VE (volumetric efficiency) of the engine.

For example, a 600cc 4-stroke with a 14cc head area is going to have rough compression ratio of about 10.7:1 ratio. However, if the VE is only 90% then it means that the compression ratio will drop to about 9.7:1 or so.

It means less mix being sucked into engine, so less to be compressed.

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Compression Ratio 10 Dec 2005 19:46 #12567

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It will give you an exact (static) compression ratio, not an approximate one. Calculating the Volumetric Efficientcy in order to determine the dynamic compression ratio is a whole nother ball game, and I doubt that was the question.
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Compression Ratio 10 Dec 2005 20:41 #12574

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volumetricly speaking, the dynamics of the efficiency of the compression are not subjects of displacement?

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Compression Ratio 10 Dec 2005 22:12 #12584

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Volumetric efficiency is stated as a percentage of the engines total airflow potential. (Total airflow potential, or pumping potential = displacement X rpm.) Volumetric efficiency is determind by measuring airflow into the engine while it is running.


For more info:

www.yawpower.com/martech.html
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