KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
01 May 2023 06:25
Got most of the paint removed from the upper case.
Still needs a going over to remove whats left and hit the corrosion with some lube using fine steel wool.
Still needs a going over to remove whats left and hit the corrosion with some lube using fine steel wool.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
04 May 2023 11:25
Got most of the paint removed from the lower case.
Still needs a going over to remove whats left, and not as much corrosion on this compared to the upper so it will need less work.
Will go over both of them with M6/M8 taps to clean out all the threads.
Still needs a going over to remove whats left, and not as much corrosion on this compared to the upper so it will need less work.
Will go over both of them with M6/M8 taps to clean out all the threads.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
30 May 2023 12:32 - 30 May 2023 12:35
Not much done lately, been working on another bike.
I did sand some engine covers the other night and made up this aluminum tray to hang the Dyna3 off the bottom of the battery box.
I enlarged the Dyna box holes to take a M4 sized rod, ran a die over both ends for some nylock nuts.
Its mounted off the battery tray from existing holes one thru that drain well, I made a standoff to support it flat. Its isolated with rubber foam and after this picture I put some heat shrink on the wires instead of that electrical tape.
I did sand some engine covers the other night and made up this aluminum tray to hang the Dyna3 off the bottom of the battery box.
I enlarged the Dyna box holes to take a M4 sized rod, ran a die over both ends for some nylock nuts.
Its mounted off the battery tray from existing holes one thru that drain well, I made a standoff to support it flat. Its isolated with rubber foam and after this picture I put some heat shrink on the wires instead of that electrical tape.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
30 May 2023 21:42
Don't worry about the 650 purists, you're building a really cool hot rod bike. We Z1 owners will love it. When I built my 1947 Ford hotrod 20 years ago I put in a small block chevy engine, muncie 4 speed and an S10 rear axle. I've always let the Ford purist bitching go in one ear and out the other.
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Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
01 Jun 2023 13:29
I have seven 650's in total, only two are stock. 50 wheel HP is just not enough to entertain me, that's why most of them are modified.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
01 Jun 2023 18:25
I also like to build different stuff. I hot rodded my 85' GMC S15. The stock 2.8L V6 was 110hp, now it's making about 240hp. It's pretty quick, fun to drive and still gets about 16mpg even when I'm beating on it. It doesn't look like anything special but that's the point.
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1975 Honda CB 400F Super Sport
1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
1982 Honda CB 900F Super Sport
1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda Sabre 700
1984 Honda Interceptor 1000
1990 Moto Guzzi 1000
1994 Kawasaki ZG 1000 Concours
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1975 Honda CB 400F Super Sport
1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
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1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda Sabre 700
1984 Honda Interceptor 1000
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
05 Jun 2023 12:33 - 05 Jun 2023 12:34
Been busy at my Sons house installing new hardwood floors and baseboards. Will be able to get back on this project once the dust settles.
I am also trying to work on my main ride at the moment as well. I need to swap a few parts on it before I fire it up since pulling it out of storage last week.
Carbs got pulled off it last fall. Want to swap the cam chain tensioner before they go back on.
Also need to put a newer oil pump in it, different oil pan, and a small oil cooler.
All that needs to be done before I will ride it again.
I am also trying to work on my main ride at the moment as well. I need to swap a few parts on it before I fire it up since pulling it out of storage last week.
Carbs got pulled off it last fall. Want to swap the cam chain tensioner before they go back on.
Also need to put a newer oil pump in it, different oil pan, and a small oil cooler.
All that needs to be done before I will ride it again.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
22 Jun 2023 11:44
Bought some replacement tires, Shinko 230's front and rear. Price was right and they seem better than what I have on the rims currently.
Old tires are 12 year old Kenda Challengers, only issue was wet performance. Needed to change them even thought they do not have a lot of miles on them, they don't inspire any confidence.
Old tires are 12 year old Kenda Challengers, only issue was wet performance. Needed to change them even thought they do not have a lot of miles on them, they don't inspire any confidence.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
26 Jun 2023 20:04
When you try your new tires let us know what you think of them. I'll be buying tires later this summer and Shinko 230's are what I'm leaning toward.
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1974 Z1A
1015
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
28 Jun 2023 17:12 - 28 Jun 2023 17:20
Got back to working on this project today. Started by chasing the threads on the upper case half casting.
When I was disassembling this engine I noted one of the outer crank case bolts on the points side was stripped.
Today when I was chasing the threads I realized just how bad the PO had tried to fix that buggered thread.
I don't know how this could have happened but that hole has been put oval by drilling on a angle then tapping with a M8? What I see here is baffling!! Whoever did this drilled too deep and ran into the oil galley line that feeds the crank/top end. The drill was angled towards the crank center line. This is not a regular thread repair, probably looking at making a blind threaded insert to seal that oil feed and put that hole back to a straight M8.
Problem hole location
Light shining thru where it should not go (must have been pissing oil badly)
Was sizing it up and I believe a 7/16-14 bolt should be able to help me fix this.
Fixture this flat on the mill and use a 3/8" end mill to do the tap drill hole for the bolt. Blind tap the bolt M8 then insert the bolt using some sealing compound, then cut the bolt off flush with the top of the gasket surface.
Some people should not be allowed to hold tools! Brutal...
When I was disassembling this engine I noted one of the outer crank case bolts on the points side was stripped.
Today when I was chasing the threads I realized just how bad the PO had tried to fix that buggered thread.
I don't know how this could have happened but that hole has been put oval by drilling on a angle then tapping with a M8? What I see here is baffling!! Whoever did this drilled too deep and ran into the oil galley line that feeds the crank/top end. The drill was angled towards the crank center line. This is not a regular thread repair, probably looking at making a blind threaded insert to seal that oil feed and put that hole back to a straight M8.
Problem hole location
Light shining thru where it should not go (must have been pissing oil badly)
Was sizing it up and I believe a 7/16-14 bolt should be able to help me fix this.
Fixture this flat on the mill and use a 3/8" end mill to do the tap drill hole for the bolt. Blind tap the bolt M8 then insert the bolt using some sealing compound, then cut the bolt off flush with the top of the gasket surface.
Some people should not be allowed to hold tools! Brutal...
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
Last edit: 28 Jun 2023 17:20 by Injected. Reason: sp
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
29 Jun 2023 07:53
They are out there.
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'81 KZ-750 E2
'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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Re: KZ650 Sleeper Build (KZ1000 engine transplant)
29 Jun 2023 08:13
Z1b1000 1975 Z1b
kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/598262-kz-...-will-it-live#672882
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kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/598262-kz-...-will-it-live#672882
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