Cleaning my gas tank

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04 Apr 2010 10:08 #358364 by kztee
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I am finally getting around to working on the ST. Got a new battery and I am going to drain the oil and put in some fresh oil. Then I will make a temporary aux tank to see if I can get her to fire. In the mean time I need to clean out the original fuel tank. It looks like the PO tried to coat the tank and did it very carelessly. I have emptied out the old varnished gas but the inside looks nasty.

The stuff inside the tank is soft. Almost feels like plastic wrap coating the inside. After a little searching here I have seen mentioned of BB's inside a tank and wrapping it with blankets and running the tank through the dryer. Does this seem like my best option. I have also heard that a radiator shop can clean a tank. What would that do to the paint?

1977 KZ 1000A - Currently rebuilding
1980 KZ 750 LTD - Mostly stock daily rider
1979 KZ 1000 LTD - Parts bike and/or future project
1979 KZ 1000 ST
1980 GS 750 L
2003 ZRX 1200 R

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04 Apr 2010 10:09 - 04 Apr 2010 10:22 #358365 by kztee
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1977 KZ 1000A - Currently rebuilding
1980 KZ 750 LTD - Mostly stock daily rider
1979 KZ 1000 LTD - Parts bike and/or future project
1979 KZ 1000 ST
1980 GS 750 L
2003 ZRX 1200 R
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04 Apr 2010 10:13 #358366 by ditchdriver
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the guys on here have been talking about sea foam u can get it at napa for about 8 buck or so and apparently it works to clean out the tank see this post Sea Foam in crankcase? they have been talking about it in there

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04 Apr 2010 10:26 #358367 by otakar
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I have had 5 tanks done at a local radiator shop and they do a fantastic job. If the tank is only rusted it costs me $65 to get it cleaned and coated. If it has been coated before it costs $125. If it is a epoxy coating you can kiss your paint goodbye. The only way to remove the epoxy is to bake it out. The first thing I would do is to remove all the fittings from the tank and blast out as much as you can with a pressure washer. If you see any rust inside flush it out first with a little Acetone to remove the water and than start flushing it out with MEK. That will remove all but the epoxy stile of liners. If you manage to remove the liner with MEK, than flush the tank out with Muriatic acid. This will remove the rust. Rinse out with tank with a week solution of baking soda with DISTILED water. Now flush it out again with Acetone to remove the water. Now you are ready to re-coat or have it re-coated.

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78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
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04 Apr 2010 10:30 #358369 by Nebr_Rex
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kztee wrote:

I am finally getting around to working on the ST. Got a new battery and I am going to drain the oil and put in some fresh oil. Then I will make a temporary aux tank to see if I can get her to fire. In the mean time I need to clean out the original fuel tank. It looks like the PO tried to coat the tank and did it very carelessly. I have emptied out the old varnished gas but the inside looks nasty.

The stuff inside the tank is soft. Almost feels like plastic wrap coating the inside. After a little searching here I have seen mentioned of BB's inside a tank and wrapping it with blankets and running the tank through the dryer. Does this seem like my best option. I have also heard that a radiator shop can clean a tank. What would that do to the paint?


running the tank thru a clothes dryer?
it might damage the tank,as in dents and paint scrapes
try flushing with a garden hose
then maybe sea foam and a coat of wd-40 or something simular

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78 KZ650sr
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77 KZ400/440 cafe project
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04 Apr 2010 10:33 #358370 by sm0kinace
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looks like tank liner gone bad... a good long soak with MEK or Acetone should dissolve and remove that. Be very careful since those will attack paint if it comes in contact. Remove petcock and fuel sender, plug holes with rubber cork, or gasket and a cover plate over those holes. bb's to help remove the material would work, nuts & bolts would be better, I like using a couple short lengths of chain, about 8-10". The easier to remove when done, the better. Don't dump those chemicals in the street or the drain when you're done though, take it to a hazardous material waste disposal place.

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04 Apr 2010 10:35 #358371 by otakar
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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04 Apr 2010 10:38 #358372 by otakar
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sm0kinace wrote:

looks like tank liner gone bad... a good long soak with MEK or Acetone should dissolve and remove that. Be very careful since those will attack paint if it comes in contact. Remove petcock and fuel sender, plug holes with rubber cork, or gasket and a cover plate over those holes. bb's to help remove the material would work, nuts & bolts would be better, I like using a couple short lengths of chain, about 8-10". The easier to remove when done, the better. Don't dump those chemicals in the street or the drain when you're done though, take it to a hazardous material waste disposal place.


I agree, Chain works the best. The double link swing stile is the best because it has more bite. If you take a section of chain and beat it over a big rock to put some divots into it works the best.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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04 Apr 2010 13:40 #358396 by DoubleDub
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Pictures like these make me glad I didn't try to use a liner on my tank...yuck!

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04 Apr 2010 14:31 #358398 by otakar
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It is so much better to have it done by a PRO and just pay a couple of $.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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04 Apr 2010 15:49 #358411 by kztee
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So, where would I get some MEK? Maybe I should just take it to a radiator shop. I don't mind spending some money if it will save the tank. There's no rust now so I would rather save it vs. buying a different one.

1977 KZ 1000A - Currently rebuilding
1980 KZ 750 LTD - Mostly stock daily rider
1979 KZ 1000 LTD - Parts bike and/or future project
1979 KZ 1000 ST
1980 GS 750 L
2003 ZRX 1200 R

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04 Apr 2010 16:08 - 04 Apr 2010 16:13 #358416 by KZQ
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Hi Mr.Tee,

If your tank has been previously coated with any of the epoxies, I agree a radiator shop is a next best step. In case you haven't, have you reviewed the articles available here on KZR?

Try this one:

kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_content...view&id=22&Itemid=11

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