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08 Mar 2006 11:19 #29374 by indykaw77
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Anybody used this stuff? I had a litle "D.O.T.3 vs. paint" issue (paint lost!) on my fairing, so been taking care of that. Saw the Adhesion promoter and thought would give it a shot.
Goes on clear and wet, but some spots dried and looked like it was wanting to raise. It doesnt SEEM to want to flake off, but am holding off color/clear til I figure this out....so if anybody has scoop, please lemme know.
Thanks!

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08 Mar 2006 11:44 #29378 by mykznme
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i use bulldog adh. prom. i havnt tried the duplicolor.

what did you use to clean the surface?
sounds like there might still be some brake fluid there.


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08 Mar 2006 13:32 #29408 by indykaw77
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Used "KleanStrip" PrepAll Wax silicone and grease remover (Got from AutoBody Toolmart). Applied as per directions, in a heated garage (64 degrees on thermometer, 48% humidity), onto a room temp fairing.
Lifting or raising might not have been most accurate description. SOME spots on the fairing look like "wrinkle coat" (The Adhesion Promoter is clear, BTW).
The kicker is....this happened on the left side, as viewed from seat.....not RIGHT side where i spilled the fluid. Am letting it dry overnite and will try to sand it out and see what happened. Any other thoughts boys and girls????

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08 Mar 2006 16:04 #29448 by mykznme
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taken from tcpglobal.com
CAUSE
Excessive film thickness or "piling on" of heavy wet coats.

Placing a newly painted finish in hot sun too soon after spraying.

Using lacquer thinner to reduce synthetic enamel.

Spraying in extreme hot, humid weather conditions.

Under reduced and/or too fast evaporating thinner/reducer for spray conditions.

Air pressure too low during spray application.

Force drying of air-dry enamels without the recommended additives.

REPAIR
If defects are minor; Sand the top surface smooth, allow to cure and refinish.

If defects are severe; Remove the affected area and refinish.

PREVENTION
Avoid excessive film thickness and heavy coats. Always allow for sufficient flash times.

Keep newly painted finish away from direct sunlight until finish has dried/cured.

Use reducer that is specifically recommended for the topcoat.

Use the recommended reducer, additive, and/or retarder when spraying in hot humid weather.

Select recommend thinner/reducer based on temperature, humidity, air movement, and size of repair.

Use the proper reduction ratio and spray at recommended air pressure.

Select the recommended additives to suit drying conditions. Follow force dry temperatures and time recommendations.

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08 Mar 2006 17:35 #29475 by BRGMGBGT
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I have used the Duplicolor adhesion Promoter, but only on a couple of small things.
I painted my model helo and RC car with duplicolor, using the adhesion promotor since the bodies are a white plastic.
I didn't have any problems. I sanded and cleaned with lacquer thinner, then sprayed on the promotor, the ground coat then the color coat.
I did make sure I followed the time lines, that's about it.
Good luck.

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08 Mar 2006 17:36 #29476 by indykaw77
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Good reading there......the Adhesion promoter instructions cal for "1 wet, full coat" Allow to dry 2-3 minutes followed by another "wet, full coat"
...."topcoat should be applied as soon as possible after drying, preferably within 10 minutes".
Maybe my "full, wet coats" were a bit too much so.
Guess I'll find out after I sand it out and start again.
Appreciate the info in that last post.....

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09 Mar 2006 07:35 #29577 by Fossil
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I had used an adhesion promoter on a pair of sidecovers I stripped down to bare plastic. The adhesion promoter raised the surface, giving it a bit of a "fur". Ended up doing a lot of sanding and will never use it again. Since then, I've painted other bare plastic parts using automotive spray can primers and have had no problems. Always use a cleaner such as Duplicolor before painting, makes a big difference in adhesion and smoothness.

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09 Mar 2006 07:43 #29581 by peachc
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I used the Adhesion Promoter on my Yamaha Side Covers, Rear Fender, and Front Fender. The stuff worked great atleast for me with a clean finish to primer. I would use the exact timelines though, because I didn't let it sit long before putting the base coat on these parts. I am planning on using on the KZ's side covers again, so definately had a good experience, plus I never had to sand, so it did come out good.

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