Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
- Samwell
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 260
- Thanks: 1
Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
12 Oct 2005 03:42
In my on going rebuild I'm replacing my clutch cable and much to my dismay I find I'm missing this sprocket guard. At least my clymer manual says I should have one. There are unused holes to bolt it on, but guard per se. I dug around on Kawi's website but can't locate it to get a part number.
This guard is a flat metal plate that covers the front engine sprocket and is nestled under the front sprocket cover.
Any ideas?
Sam
This guard is a flat metal plate that covers the front engine sprocket and is nestled under the front sprocket cover.
Any ideas?
Sam
--
Current Rides: 2013 BMW R1200GSW, 1972 BMW R75/5
Current Project: 1978 KZ1000A2: Supercrank'd by Falicon, APE studs and nuts, Dyna Green coils, powder coated frame and fenders, Stainless brake lines, dual front discs, pods, Kerker Exhaust, 1075cc with JE pistons
Current Rides: 2013 BMW R1200GSW, 1972 BMW R75/5
Current Project: 1978 KZ1000A2: Supercrank'd by Falicon, APE studs and nuts, Dyna Green coils, powder coated frame and fenders, Stainless brake lines, dual front discs, pods, Kerker Exhaust, 1075cc with JE pistons
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- steell
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 6850
- Thanks: 208
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
12 Oct 2005 04:25
IMHO, it don't weigh much, don't usually get in the way of anything (unless you need the room for an oversized sprocket) and it may help limit the damage if you break a chain, so why not put one on.
If you list the year/model in question, maybe someone has an extra they would be willing to get rid of.
If you list the year/model in question, maybe someone has an extra they would be willing to get rid of.
KD9JUR
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Samwell
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 260
- Thanks: 1
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
12 Oct 2005 15:25
Sorry, I should have listed the model. I think I've updated my sig file to include it.
Anyway, it for a '78 KZ1000A2. I'm all for having one, its just I don't know where to find one, and I can't seem to locate it on Kawi's website to find a part number for it.
thanks for your help...Sam
steell wrote:
Anyway, it for a '78 KZ1000A2. I'm all for having one, its just I don't know where to find one, and I can't seem to locate it on Kawi's website to find a part number for it.
thanks for your help...Sam
steell wrote:
IMHO, it don't weigh much, don't usually get in the way of anything (unless you need the room for an oversized sprocket) and it may help limit the damage if you break a chain, so why not put one on.
If you list the year/model in question, maybe someone has an extra they would be willing to get rid of.
--
Current Rides: 2013 BMW R1200GSW, 1972 BMW R75/5
Current Project: 1978 KZ1000A2: Supercrank'd by Falicon, APE studs and nuts, Dyna Green coils, powder coated frame and fenders, Stainless brake lines, dual front discs, pods, Kerker Exhaust, 1075cc with JE pistons
Current Rides: 2013 BMW R1200GSW, 1972 BMW R75/5
Current Project: 1978 KZ1000A2: Supercrank'd by Falicon, APE studs and nuts, Dyna Green coils, powder coated frame and fenders, Stainless brake lines, dual front discs, pods, Kerker Exhaust, 1075cc with JE pistons
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- dannyg40
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 123
- Thanks: 0
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
12 Oct 2005 17:04
Good question !
Im wondering if anyone knows if them chain guards are all exactly the same, or is some are different. My 750 - 4 has a 13 tooth front sprocket, and if I get a 14 tooth for the front, it would be extremely close to the front chain guard. I see the specs of some different models of KZ's that use a 15 or even 16 tooth front sproket on the same 750 engine. Is there a different front chain guard that allows the extra room ?
Im wondering if anyone knows if them chain guards are all exactly the same, or is some are different. My 750 - 4 has a 13 tooth front sprocket, and if I get a 14 tooth for the front, it would be extremely close to the front chain guard. I see the specs of some different models of KZ's that use a 15 or even 16 tooth front sproket on the same 750 engine. Is there a different front chain guard that allows the extra room ?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- savedrider
- Offline
- User
- 1975 Z1-B 900
- Posts: 476
- Thanks: 1
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
12 Oct 2005 17:13
It's not just you Samwell...I just checked the fiche on
www.partsfish.com
and sure enough I cannot locate that cover you are talking about. Maybe they did not use it on your year bike even though the bolt holes are still there?
I don't think you absolutely have to have it anyhow. It might sling a little more grunge around in there and if the chain did break that would suck. I wouldn't worry about it.
I don't think you absolutely have to have it anyhow. It might sling a little more grunge around in there and if the chain did break that would suck. I wouldn't worry about it.
Get right or get left! <*{{{><
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- wireguy
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 213
- Thanks: 0
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
18 Nov 2005 19:44
i dont remember ever seeing a sprocket gaurd,the on thing i can think of is the perforated piece that mounts inside the cover,is this what youre talking about?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- rstnick
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 4416
- Thanks: 384
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
18 Nov 2005 20:04
Is part # 21 not a sprocket cover? The discription is not but it sure looks like one: Part # 21 14025-1106 COVER,TRANSMISSION
Rob
CANADA
Need a key for your Kawasaki? PM me
1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, ZRX shocks, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R - Wife's
2005 z750s (aka GPz750)
1978 KZ1000 project
CANADA
Need a key for your Kawasaki? PM me
1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, ZRX shocks, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R - Wife's
2005 z750s (aka GPz750)
1978 KZ1000 project
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- wireguy
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 213
- Thanks: 0
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
18 Nov 2005 22:00
13-14 are the pieces i was thinking about,is it one of these?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- steell
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 6850
- Thanks: 208
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
19 Nov 2005 05:52
13 and 14 are covers, 21 is the trans cover while 22 is the gasket. The chain/sprocket guard bolts to #21 and is a flat piece of metal perpendicular to it. It forms a curve in front of the chain to prevent the chain from eating the crankcase when it breaks.
KD9JUR
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- kawtoy
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 806
- Thanks: 6
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
19 Nov 2005 08:19
I am pretty sure if you were missing #21 you would aslo be missing lots of oil. It has a shaft seal that slides over the sprocket shaft. Without this seal lots of oil would be pouring out.
Harley Davidson- Turning gas into noise without the harmful affects of horsepower for over 100 years.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 79MKII
- Offline
- User
- Love Them Kaws!
- Posts: 2494
- Thanks: 43
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
19 Nov 2005 10:44
Yea, #21 mounts to the engine to seal the trans and is INSIDE the sprocket. The only "cover" I have seen is #13 and #14 which is insulation to deaden sound and maybe add a little strength. Generally the entire large cover is considered the sprocket cover. You have to have some kind of sprocker cover to mount the clutch cable to the clutch actuator/pushrod. Another cool option is this cover:
www.pmfronline.com/clutch_release_kits.htm
I just realized that you are using a Clymer...they are for many different models/years. The early 900's had a cover like you are talking about. This diagram is from a '73 Z1. See part number 15. I don't think the later years had them.
15 14024-008 COVER,ENGINE SPROCKET
Post edited by: 79MKII, at: 2005/11/19 13:49
I just realized that you are using a Clymer...they are for many different models/years. The early 900's had a cover like you are talking about. This diagram is from a '73 Z1. See part number 15. I don't think the later years had them.
15 14024-008 COVER,ENGINE SPROCKET
Post edited by: 79MKII, at: 2005/11/19 13:49
The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 79MKII
- Offline
- User
- Love Them Kaws!
- Posts: 2494
- Thanks: 43
Re: Should I have an engine sprocket guard?
19 Nov 2005 10:51
The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.