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14 Sep 2006 13:24 #76735 by kzinaz
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I was wondering if a 1981 750E frame is the same as the 750 spectre frame. any help or opinions would be great. thanks.

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16 Sep 2006 20:38 #77322 by KnuckleBuster
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I have a feeling it is the same frame. I could be wrong, though. They look very similar, but for some reason I think they may have different seat and tank mounts. I know this doesn't answer the question very well, but that's my $.02

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17 Sep 2006 12:29 #77429 by apeman
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They are NOT the same. The Spectre frame is similar to the KZ750H [LTD] frame, except for the swingarms (spectre is shaft, H is chain). The KZ750E [standard] has a lesser neck rake angle, and is longer from the bars to the seat. You can swap tanks and seats between the H and the Spectre, but they do not fit onto the E. All the side covers swap. The E forks are different too (shorter, and the axle is on the bottom). The H and the Spectre forks are similar to each other, except for coloring, and except the Spectre has boots to cover the inner fork tube.

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PREVIOUS KZs: 1980 KZ750H with 108,000 miles; 1980 KZ750E with 28,000 miles; and KZ750H street/cafe project, all sold a few years back.

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17 Sep 2006 13:14 #77443 by kznuke
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Hey Apeman, you're saying the Spectre and the "H" (like my '80 750 LTD) have the same tank mounts? I'm looking for a bigger tank for the LTD (12.4l is way too small). Any idea what the fuel capacity of the Spectre is? The 750E has a 17.3l tank but I don't know if it'll fit. Thanks in advance.

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17 Sep 2006 15:55 #77472 by apeman
Replied by apeman on topic 750E frame
Other than paint, the Spectre and the H [LTD] tanks look identical to me. The E tank mounts are very similar, but I think the E tank is longer (front to back). (Not real sure though, since I never measured them!) Maybe I will get a chance to do that in a day or so. Good LTD and Spectre tanks are common. Good E tanks are very rare (since they sold fewer units here in the US).

I agree the tank size on the LTD is too small for anything other than short distance riding. I refill mine about every 100 miles. (It has a little more than that, but I do not like fiddling with the petcock, switching to "reserve", while I am on the Bay Bridge during commute hours dodging cell-phone talking SUV drivers.) Since my commute is about 23-24 miles round trip, that gets me through four days.

KZINAZ, sorry about hijacking your thread. BTW, another difference between the E frame and the Specter/H frames is at the tail. The frame metal configuaration is much different. (The E is set up for a boxy plastic tail fairing with a plastic inner fender, and the other two are not.)

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PREVIOUS KZs: 1980 KZ750H with 108,000 miles; 1980 KZ750E with 28,000 miles; and KZ750H street/cafe project, all sold a few years back.

This is what I do for fun, not for work. It is art, with a little engineering thrown in.

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18 Sep 2006 10:19 #77647 by kznuke
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KZINAZ, I'm the one who should appologize for the hijacking but now that I have control of the cock-pit....Actually, kzinaz is a friend of mine and I may just have to hijack his tank as well. At the very least, when we next hook up, I'll do some measuring on his and mine (give me a call bro). BTW, apeman, my commute is 80 miles round trip to work and back so I have to refill every time I ride to work. BUMMER! Between his bike and the local bike yard, I'll see if I can get some tank measurements and let you know what I find.

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18 Sep 2006 10:35 #77653 by mariozappa
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the 750H

1977 KZ650C1
and the KZ650/KZ750 Conversion ;)
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18 Sep 2006 10:36 #77654 by mariozappa
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the 750E

1977 KZ650C1
and the KZ650/KZ750 Conversion ;)
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21 Sep 2006 18:02 #78591 by kzinaz
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the reason i ask is b/c i saw a nice spectre on here (the one with the two baby blue stripes on gray paint in the picture postings) that i'm trying to duplicate, or at least make similar. so i guess i'm going to have to cut the frame and weld a supporter bar? any info or input would help. thanks

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21 Sep 2006 19:29 #78619 by guitargeek
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I have an '80 H1, my buddy has an '82 N1. The tank mounts are not the same.

1980 KZ750-H1 (slightly altered)
1987 KZ1000-P6 "Ponch"
1979 GS1000 "Dadzuki"

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22 Sep 2006 20:11 #78862 by Chevy
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And since the 1983 N2 Spectre and the 1983 F1 LTD swap alot of parts, those are another two bikes you can eliminate from your list of interchangeable bikes.

I can't say for certain but I also believe the 1984 ZN700A1 and the ZN750A1 have a frame similar to the Spectre.

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