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Anyway, during the whole matter, I decided to purchase a Mityvac to see if it might help make the process go a little quicker. It seems like it helped, as I was able to get the brake feeling good, and I think some old cloudy fluid was extracted in the process.
But I've also recently watched a video about "reverse" bleeding the brakes, wherein you force a syringe full of fluid up from the caliper to the cylinder. I attempted it, and it was very messy very fast.
It got me thinking, why not fill the system with fluid, and attach a vacuum to the top of the system at the reservoir, and simply suck the air out that way? I've looked, but maybe I'm not using the right search terms, cause it seems like this isn't common. The only thing I guess would be how you actually attach the vacuum to the top, since there are different shapes and sizes of reservoir, but I guess you'd just have to have one that is made for your bike. These days though, it wouldn't be unreasonable to design and 3D print something that lets you cap your reservoir and attach your vacuum hose.
Does any of this idea make sense? Am I overthinking things as always? Or am I on to something that in theory should work?
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Three things to remember, completely drain the old fluid out and start with empty system then unbolt the splitter, if you have one, from the bottom yoke and let it hang so that the inlet from the mc is the highest point which ensures you don't get trapped air in the brake light switch.
Thirdly apply light pressure to the syringe and fill the system slowly. Trying to force the fluid in too quickly will get real messy, real quick as you mentioned.
If you then feel you need to belt and braces it, cable tie the lever back to the throttle grip and leave overnight to ensure any micro bubbles can make their way out.
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+1 to the pressure bleed. I have a unit that connects to a tyre valve for use on cars, I just need to make an adaptor to fit the brake and clutch resevoirs on my build. I have never tried reverse bleeding on a bike but have done this with the clutch on some cars. For some unknown reason some cars have the bleed nipple below the pipe inlet on the clutch slave which makes them an absolute PITA to bleed, I have connected a hose from the bleed nipple on the front brake caliper to the bleed nipple on the clutch slave then a couple of pumps on the brake and the job is done. The nice thing is no mess as cars usually have a shared resevoir so the fluid is simply circulating from brake to clutchNessism post=915193 userid=14026Pushing fluid under positive pressure from the top works great. I use that method with my car. Use a bug sprayer pump, along with some sort of adapter at the master (that's the hard part). Works super fast and gets all the air out.
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I'll dig up the youtube evidence in a bit.
I have to finish my coffee first.
I use a vacuum device to fill cooling systems on cars to speed the purging of bubbles in the system.
I tried to build a vacuum system for the master cylinder but it got a bit messy. i was using a refrigerant manifold set and a vacuum pump.. one day i may mess with it again.
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I had already done some bleeding the normal way, so the job was already partially done. But it really felt like this was the thing that took it over the finish line, and it was very fast and easy.
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