Side covers fixing brackets

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28 Dec 2022 12:15 #878302 by gordone
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Do someone know about alternative fixing broken «brackets» for the side covers?

Picture below is just from a example of the brackets I’m talking about, can take photos of mine covers when I’m coming back home.

 

1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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28 Dec 2022 13:45 - 28 Dec 2022 13:47 #878305 by Kelly E
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I use a product called PlastiFix. It uses ultra fine abs powder and their liquid glue. I've repaired many side cover mounting pegs, tabs and I even fixed an 84' CB 700SC Nighthawk fairing after a crash including making two missing pieces. I get the PlastiFix from murphskits.com a Concours specialty vendor.
Here's my 94' Concours that had a piece missing from the fairing above the left turn signal when I got it. Once glued in you can fill voids with the powder/glue mixture. Now the repair is solid and has lived through several long distance rides and a drop, maybe someday I'll paint it.

The Rust Bros. Garage Collection
1974 Honda CB 550 K0
1975 Honda CB 400F Super Sport
1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
1982 Honda CB 900F Super Sport
1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda Sabre 700
1984 Honda Interceptor 1000
1990 Moto Guzzi 1000
1994 Kawasaki ZG 1000 Concours

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28 Dec 2022 22:52 #878308 by woodyvale
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If its the lugs, you can buy a repair set.

wingstuff.com/products/37050-side-cover-replacement-studs

In my case I gave my brother the dimensions of the old one and he 3d printed some new tabs for me. I just cut them to length and glued them with ABS epoxy - still going strong after 2 years.

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29 Dec 2022 01:37 #878309 by Wookie58
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I have been doing a lot of plastic work on my build and have found a couple of things worth noting. First you need to establish what the panel is made of, my Ltd has one OE panel which is ABS and one pattern panel which is made of a different plastic which I suspect is polypropylene. PP is a " low surface energy" plastic and products made for ABS don't bond it. They will stick but can be pulled off again with little effort. If the panel is PP there are a couple of products that will bond it, there is a 3M product recommended by DOHC or a UK product called PP3000. ( details of both are at the bottom of page 9 in my build thread) however both these products are expensive as you need to buy the bonding agent, a dispenser and nozzles which run at around €80 euros all in so another panel may be a more cost effective option (I had no choice as I was modifying the panels)
You can establish if it is ABS by applying some "acetone" with a cloth to a small area on the back of the panel, if it is ABS the surface will become sticky as the acetone dissolves the surface ( don't go crazy with the acetone)
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29 Dec 2022 04:19 #878310 by gordone
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Thank you all!

1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine

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29 Dec 2022 08:35 #878313 by H1Vindicator
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If a mounting stud is missing, you could use one from a junk side cover.  

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29 Dec 2022 09:36 #878314 by Wookie58
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If a mounting stud is missing, you could use one from a junk side cover.  
I think this was the plan, it was more a case of what to attach it with 

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29 Dec 2022 09:41 #878315 by Buzz Nichols
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I use a product called PlastiFix. It uses ultra fine abs powder and their liquid glue. I've repaired many side cover mounting pegs, tabs and I even fixed an 84' CB 700SC Nighthawk fairing after a crash including making two missing pieces. I get the PlastiFix from murphskits.com a Concours specialty vendor.
Here's my 94' Concours that had a piece missing from the fairing above the left turn signal when I got it. Once glued in you can fill voids with the powder/glue mixture. Now the repair is solid and has lived through several long distance rides and a drop, maybe someday I'll paint it.

I've used a similar product called Q Bond (it comes with powder for bonding plastics, as well as powder for bonding metals) with consistent success. You heap up the powder, then drip the liquid onto it, and it pretty much instantly hardens. A couple of people have told me they did something similar with baking soda and CA glue, but I can't confirm or deny the efficacy of that approach.
 

Is this thing working? Is this thing on?

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29 Dec 2022 18:54 #878327 by Kelly E
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You can do the same thing with PlastiFix. I like it because the glue doesn't glue your fingers together.

The Rust Bros. Garage Collection
1974 Honda CB 550 K0
1975 Honda CB 400F Super Sport
1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
1982 Honda CB 900F Super Sport
1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda Sabre 700
1984 Honda Interceptor 1000
1990 Moto Guzzi 1000
1994 Kawasaki ZG 1000 Concours

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30 Dec 2022 00:55 #878335 by Jonas_Z1000j
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I repaired holes (previous owner had mini led turnlights) and a loop on the rear cowl by melting Lego (you can use the same color as the panel) in acetone. Paste it on the parts you want to attach and they melt together. My repair looks fine after 4 years at least. Best thing is that its cheap!

Must be ABS plastic.

Z1000 J2 -82 not so running restoration object anymore
Z900RS -21 Green/Yellow
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