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13 Aug 2022 15:47 - 13 Aug 2022 15:47 #872176 by katit
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This is just "curious" question. What do those numbers mean on bolts? 4, 7 ? Does it mean "original" kawasaki or not?
I "lost" one of the engine bracket bolts, and then I later found it. It was skipped during plating.

But while looking I searched by PN 92001-1578 and couple came up had "7" stamped. None of my bolts on engine have those numbers. Many other bolts throughout have those numbers.

Maybe it has to do with bike made here in US? Just curious..


 

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
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Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s
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13 Aug 2022 16:56 #872177 by hardrockminer
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I believe it's the grade of the steel.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.

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13 Aug 2022 17:20 #872180 by Nessism

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13 Aug 2022 19:12 #872189 by krazee1
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"Maybe it has to do with bike made here in US? Just curious."

The hardware we assembled bikes with in Lincoln all came from Japan. 
Mike

Former M.E. at Kawasaki Motors Manufacturing, Lincoln, NE
1966 W1 (the Z1 of 1966-50H.P. and 100mph!)
1974 Z1
1978 KZ1000 LTD
1976 KZ900B pile O parts
1980 KZ750E
1980 Honda XL250S (I know, wrong flavor!)
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13 Aug 2022 19:19 #872191 by katit
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Ok, so all the bolts for engine mounting don’t have numbers on them. I am sure they are original. When I lookup pn on ebay- they pop up with #7 on them 

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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13 Aug 2022 19:23 - 13 Aug 2022 19:24 #872192 by Nessism
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Compared to SAE rating...

4 = grade 2
7 = grade 5
9 = grade 8

Regarding unmarked bolts, it's a crap shoot.  They could be nice and strong, just not marked.  On the other hand, they could be made of cheese.
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13 Aug 2022 19:27 #872193 by TexasKZ
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14 Aug 2022 05:49 #872207 by hardrockminer
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Many people believe higher grade is better, but not always.  Higher grade bolts will take more stress but they are more prone to fatigue failure and are not used in applications where fatigue is a design criterion.  Lower grade bolts are still very strong but they are also ductile, which makes them more suitable for fatigue or vibration applications.  The designer will put a lot of thought into which bolt to use for the intended use, and may even specify that a bolt only be used once, or maybe a limited number of times.

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17 Aug 2022 07:49 #872379 by katit
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Speaking of those engine bolts. I was going through FSM to find proper torques and interestingly - FSM is different from parts fiche on bolt info. Perhaps it was changed during model run?

Basically, I have 4 short bolts in front of engine (2 on top and 2 on bottom) and 2 long bolts on back.
FSM shows 4 long bolts - 2 in front, 2 on back.

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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