Advice On Pricing Early Z1 Brake Caliper

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19 Apr 2022 06:07 #865739 by Moose1800
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I take it these are pretty rare with the factory red inlay? This has been in my parts stash for over 35 years, what's a fair price to put on this? It appears to be in very good condition. Thanks for any input!

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19 Apr 2022 11:55 #865759 by Warren3200gt
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Think that "red" inlay might be a discoloured black one. Best of my knowledge they were never red. 


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    19 Apr 2022 12:30 - 19 Apr 2022 12:35 #865764 by Mikaw
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    They are not mentioned in John Brookes book. I have never seen one either, but I did find a photo on the Internet with the red insert. Possibly an aftermarket dress-up item?

     

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    19 Apr 2022 12:39 - 19 Apr 2022 12:57 #865766 by Warren3200gt
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    Red is the majority primary pigment in the make up of black. Sun will bleach out all the colours that make up black. Red being the majority pigment will be the last to bleach. Water based printing ink reacts totally different to Sun light than oil based paint. 


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    19 Apr 2022 13:20 #865768 by Moose1800
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    They are not mentioned in John Brookes book. I have never seen one either, but I did find a photo on the Internet with the red insert. Possibly an aftermarket dress-up item?

     
    I have seen a few for sale on ebay (with road rash) and that's why I ask here, I really don't think it's aftermarket because they all look the same. If so it's a very good replica.

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    19 Apr 2022 13:42 #865770 by Mikaw
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    They are not mentioned in John Brookes book. I have never seen one either, but I did find a photo on the Internet with the red insert. Possibly an aftermarket dress-up item?

     
    I have seen a few for sale on ebay (with road rash) and that's why I ask here, I really don't think it's aftermarket because they all look the same. If so it's a very good replica.
    I was only talking about the red insert.

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    19 Apr 2022 13:50 - 19 Apr 2022 13:53 #865771 by Moose1800
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    Oh I understand what you're saying but some of the high end auctions like Mecum and Vegas show this same caliper with the same insert. Thanks for all the info!
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    19 Apr 2022 17:32 - 19 Apr 2022 17:33 #865779 by hardrockminer
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    Do the main bolts have a star indent a the end of the hex head?  If so they are Z1.  If not they are Z1A or B.  It looks to be in very good condition though.  Has it been repainted?

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    19 Apr 2022 19:31 #865785 by z1kzonly
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    Red insert is good! As factory oem.  Later style bolts, not early 73, no blanchard star machine marks inside. And Allen bolts were painted? Is piston free?
    Still nice for the Z1 restorer's.

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    20 Apr 2022 04:18 #865806 by slmjim+Z1BEBE
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    The inserts were black when new.  Red is the patina of age.

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    20 Apr 2022 04:29 #865807 by hardrockminer
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    The inserts were black when new.  Red is the patina of age.

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