1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
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1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
30 Oct 2020 10:26
I have a single disk system. No desire to retrofit a dual. Replacing/refurbing the entire front system. I see K1 has a MC for a dual system. (Front Double Disk 5/8" M/C Complete Assembly - for 7/8 inch 'bars). I sent an email to K1 technical asking them if this specific MC will fit my single disc system. They responded that model will fit a "the 77-79 KZ650 models". Just checking with anyone here that may have used this MC on a single disc system. Thank you for your assistance as always!!
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
30 Oct 2020 11:07
Single disc systems typically take a 14mm master cylinder. A 5/8" bore master on a single disc bike will result in a very firm lever that takes a lot of hand force compared to a 14mm master.
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
30 Oct 2020 11:26
Thank you Sir. I have found a good retailer on Ebay that has a few OEM MCs that have been refurbed for about the same price. Appreciate the great response!
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
30 Oct 2020 11:35 - 30 Oct 2020 14:43
Some of the 70s KZ650s had a dual disk Fr brake, so that's probably why they say it's suitable for your bike. It's a common mistake lumping too many models together for the model fitment. I see it all the time on EB & elsewhere.
The stock master cylinder on my motorcycle is embossed with 1/2 (1/2" = 12.5mm) (1981 KZ650 w single disk Fr br).
I installed a good used Fr brake mc from a Honda CBR500. For the brake light wiring I got the Fr br wire lead from a KZ1000P police bike.
The stock master cylinder on my motorcycle is embossed with 1/2 (1/2" = 12.5mm) (1981 KZ650 w single disk Fr br).
I installed a good used Fr brake mc from a Honda CBR500. For the brake light wiring I got the Fr br wire lead from a KZ1000P police bike.
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
30 Oct 2020 12:45
Best upgrade to single disc is braided hoses. Makes a massive difference.
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
30 Oct 2020 14:58
Yep. I plan on going with Stainless lines. Any recommendations on who to get them from?
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
31 Oct 2020 02:03 - 31 Oct 2020 02:04
HEL braided lines are about teh best you can get. Assuming your in the US so below are your dealers.
HEL Performance Motorcycle East Coast
Powersports KC
PO BOX 3684
Shawnee
KS 66203
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us.helperformance.com
sales@helperformance.us
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HEL Performance Motorcycle West Coast
ND Customz
19771 Hirsch Ct
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HEL Performance Motorcycle East Coast
Powersports KC
PO BOX 3684
Shawnee
KS 66203
United States
us.helperformance.com
sales@helperformance.us
913-730-7500
Motorcycle
HEL Performance Motorcycle West Coast
ND Customz
19771 Hirsch Ct
Anderson
CA 96007
United States
usa.helperformance.com
ndcustomz@hotmail.com
530-945-2564
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
31 Oct 2020 06:28 - 31 Oct 2020 06:29
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
www.kzrider.com/11-projects/620336-anoth...uild-thread?start=24
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
www.kzrider.com/11-projects/620336-anoth...uild-thread?start=24
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
31 Oct 2020 07:38 - 31 Oct 2020 09:38
CycleBrakes.com sells the Galfer stuff. I installed Goodridge lines & fittings from Z1Enterprises.com. There's a little extra work to install the fittings, but it's very easy & I've never had a leak. One benefit is that you can change the fitting at the master cylinder some time in the future if need be in case you make a change. If you go the Goodridge route, each fitting adds slightly less than an inch (~24mm). so if the needed eye-to-eye measurement is 19", get a 17 or 18 inch line.
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
31 Oct 2020 13:56
Confirmed the stock master bore is 14mm. For brake lines I like Earl's parts. Made in USA and lots of options to match your particular bike, mods and all. Check my rebuild thread for a photo tutorial.
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Attachment kz650 master bore.PNG not found
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1981 KZ750E2
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1981 KZ750E2
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
31 Oct 2020 14:53 - 01 Nov 2020 06:53
Is that chart from the KZ650 manual? The Z1 FSM has a similar chart with the same numbers for the single disk.
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Re: 1977 KZ650B1 Master cylinder question. Just checking with the experts
31 Oct 2020 16:49martin_csr wrote: Is that chart from the KZ650 manual? The Z1 manual has a similar chart with the same numbers for the single disk.
Yes, KZ650 factory manual.
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1981 KZ750E2
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