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Why are rear brake pads different from the front?
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08 Jul 2020 18:07 #830131
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1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Why are rear brake pads different from the front? was created by loudhvx
They have a different Kawasaki part number and some aftermarket manufacturers of pads specify some as "Rear" and some as "Front". They are identical in appearance and some manufacturers show their pad can be used for front or rear.
So is there ever a difference in material for front versus rear? And if it's important, why, and why do some manufacturers ignore the difference?
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So is there ever a difference in material for front versus rear? And if it's important, why, and why do some manufacturers ignore the difference?
No I did not google it. Speculate as necessary.
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08 Jul 2020 20:45 #830144
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I don't think I have ever seen a difference in friction material except for upgrades to heavy duty/high performance use.
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79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
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81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected
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08 Jul 2020 21:11 - 08 Jul 2020 21:51 #830148
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Replied by F64 on topic Why are rear brake pads different from the front?
I would guess they may be different compounds.
The front would have to survive a higher heat level without fade. As well as requiring more braking power due to the weight transfer on dry pavement.
The rears would not be as aggressive due to potential rear wheel lockup and wouldn't need to be as fade resistant as the front.
Kawasaki was probably having issues with overly sensitive rear brakes...hence the different part number.
Instead of changing master cylinder piston sizes, they just change the brake pad compound.
Some aftermarket manufacturers probably have figured out a braking compound that's works well as a compromise, but Kawasaki could make an aggressive compound for the front and less aggressive for the rear. Giving you an overall better braking combination.
If you are feeling curious, you could always swap rear to front----front to rear.
Just a hunch though.
rear is 1.5mm thicker than the front
photo: ecat.ferodoracing.com/product-line/motor...nd-shoes/code/FDB299
Photo: www.omniaracing.net/en/brembo-front-brak...821983-p-169688.html
The front would have to survive a higher heat level without fade. As well as requiring more braking power due to the weight transfer on dry pavement.
The rears would not be as aggressive due to potential rear wheel lockup and wouldn't need to be as fade resistant as the front.
Kawasaki was probably having issues with overly sensitive rear brakes...hence the different part number.
Instead of changing master cylinder piston sizes, they just change the brake pad compound.
Some aftermarket manufacturers probably have figured out a braking compound that's works well as a compromise, but Kawasaki could make an aggressive compound for the front and less aggressive for the rear. Giving you an overall better braking combination.
If you are feeling curious, you could always swap rear to front----front to rear.
Just a hunch though.
rear is 1.5mm thicker than the front
photo: ecat.ferodoracing.com/product-line/motor...nd-shoes/code/FDB299
Photo: www.omniaracing.net/en/brembo-front-brak...821983-p-169688.html
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Motogadget m-unit blue installed 2017.
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09 Jul 2020 06:34 #830165
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1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Ah, so it's the thickness. Huh. I never noticed. I'll have to see if I can find specs on thickness in the manual somewhere. I wonder if aftermarket universals are averaging the two or just going with the thinner spec, or even the thicker spec.
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09 Jul 2020 07:09 #830167
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Replied by Mikaw on topic Why are rear brake pads different from the front?
This post hasn’t been updated by the op but I could be a similar thing. OP is trying to replace front pads but claiming the pad thickness is to great and not allowing the caliper to go back on the bike. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/613542-brake...cement-kz750?start=0
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/613542-brake...cement-kz750?start=0
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09 Jul 2020 07:10 #830168
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Replied by Rick H. on topic Why are rear brake pads different from the front?
Well thicker rears would make sense seeing as though most riders tend to over use the rear brake versus the front. In fact one of our benchmarks on the department I worked for was watching how many rear brakes were being replaced on a given bike versus the fronts. Before advent of linked brakes we used to tell officers they should be replacing two sets of front pads to one set of rears. Good catch.
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09 Jul 2020 07:14 #830170
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1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Yeah it will be interesting to hear what that OP says was the problem.
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