Should I replace this tire?

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22 Aug 2016 17:17 #739541 by The_Proletariat
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My 2 year old front Kenda tire has been leaking air. The leak is getting worse so I sprayed the tire with soapy water. I fixed one rim leak but in the process caused another rim leak, far worse.

When I mounted this tire I used PB Blaster as lube and cleaned the bead area of corrosion. I specifically did not use soapy water to prevent future corrosion. Anyways 2 years later this wheel's bead area looks terrible. Corrosion everywhere. How can this happen?

I attempted to remove the tire and found this - a hole or flaw in the tire that bubbles up even with the tire bead broken (no air pressure in the tire)

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In case the picture is unclear, the arrow is pointing to the leak. It is in the bead area of the tire.

Do i need to replace this tire?

1982 Kawasaki KZ550 LTD
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22 Aug 2016 17:30 #739542 by SWest

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23 Aug 2016 07:14 - 23 Aug 2016 07:16 #739604 by martin_csr
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I wouldn't use a penetrant to mount a tire as the chemicals might attack the rubber. ???

Ru-Glyde tire lubricant.
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23 Aug 2016 07:22 #739605 by Shabba
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swest wrote: I would.
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Right on. The risk you are taking with that hole enlarging and/or a pressure drop as you ride is just not worth the chance.

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23 Aug 2016 07:41 #739611 by The_Proletariat
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I figured I should replace the tire, just wanted some more experienced opinions than mine.

Should I use black tire sealant on the rim?

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23 Aug 2016 09:46 #739634 by Nerdy
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The_Proletariat wrote: I figured I should replace the tire, just wanted some more experienced opinions than mine.

Should I use black tire sealant on the rim?


If 1) the rim is clean and true and 2) the tire is clean and not deformed you should not need any sealant at all. If you still think you need sealant, go back and confirm that 1) and 2) are true.

And as martin_csr mentioned, do not use a penetrating fluid like PB Blaster to mount a tire.

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23 Aug 2016 10:09 #739639 by The_Proletariat
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Would an aerosol silicon spray work as tire lubricant?

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23 Aug 2016 10:24 - 24 Aug 2016 08:59 #739644 by martin_csr
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If you're concerned about corrosion, keep in mind that what's already there is from 30+ yrs of time. I would use a tire lubricant or soapy soapy water (Dawn dish soap). I guess silicone spray lube would be okay for mounting tires as it tends to evaporate. I don't think it would hurt & it probably wouldn't have time to attack the rubber anyway. I use Liquid Wrench silicone spray lubricant to clean a lot of stuff on the bike, but I use Ru-Glyde to mount tires.
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24 Aug 2016 00:11 - 24 Aug 2016 00:14 #739715 by bountyhunter
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Put in a tube and a rim strip? Cheaper than a new tire.

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24 Aug 2016 00:13 #739716 by bountyhunter
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The_Proletariat wrote: Would an aerosol silicon spray work as tire lubricant?

armor all would

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24 Aug 2016 03:03 #739723 by Z550tim
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Regarding the silicone it shouldn't be used to mount a tire.
I once went to a tireshop with new set of 4 tires to mount on a car, i previously treated them with maguiris tyre gel, which is very slippery silicone. The tireshop turned me away, they didn't want to install these tires because the edge of the rubber which seals the rim must have grip. Otherwise when braking the tire would spin on a rim and the car wouldn't stop.
So i had to clean all silicone with a paint thinner. The shops do use special mounting pastes, but i guess it has some different characteristics then silicone.

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24 Aug 2016 04:30 #739727 by shamal
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You should asap, and you should avoid to buy kenda tyres too :/

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