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28 Apr 2014 10:26 #630693 by CSP
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I have a 1980 KZ1000E that has no front brakes and a rear brake that's sticking. The bike is at my buddy's house right now so I can't pull the calipers off to look at them, but given the condition of the master cylinder I'm concerned that the pistons are all scored and shot. Rebuild kits are at least $50 for the fronts so I'm thinking all new stuff would save me a rebuild and not cost much more.

I've been looking at ebay but I'm not sure of the interchangability of calipers (i.e. 82 kz1000 to my 80). If you needed to basically replace everything, how would you go about it?

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28 Apr 2014 11:01 #630700 by pete greek1
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You wont know if the pistons are scored till you remove them, you might just need rebuild kits for them, buying used calipers off e-bay is hit & miss, they could be worse than the ones you have
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1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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30 Apr 2014 10:04 #630919 by CSP
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So there's no possibility for reasonably priced upgrades without swapping wheels or the whole front end? I'm probably looking around $100 for rebuild kits, and another $40-50 for a master cylinder... I'm pretty much limited to that for under ~$200?

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11 Oct 2014 17:38 #650406 by 79MKII
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CSP wrote: So there's no possibility for reasonably priced upgrades without swapping wheels or the whole front end? I'm probably looking around $100 for rebuild kits, and another $40-50 for a master cylinder... I'm pretty much limited to that for under ~$200?


I've been wondering the same thing. By the time you rebuild everything correctly, you can have a lot of cash invested in the old calipers. It seems there should be a fairly easy upgrade but I haven't had any luck finding one. You'd think there'd be an adapter out there that bolts right up with a specific, newer model caliper...haven't found one yet. They have nice kits in Japan but they are really expensive....around $850 without rotors or master cylinder. They sure look cool though!
japan.webike.net/products/1523198.html




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Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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13 Oct 2014 09:32 - 13 Oct 2014 09:44 #650549 by Tyrell Corp
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If the brake fluid is old and nasty looking then it is an indicator that the pistons will be rusted inside. I change brake fluid every two years, and hardly ever need to buy buy pistons and seals.

Whilst a lot of components on these bikes seem to last for decades even with irregular use, brakes are the opposite these days on old bikes, particularly in the cold and rainy UK .

Neglecting brake fluid changes is always expensive unnecessary trouble ahead. Whilst most bikers appreciate the need for regular oil changes, brake fluid changes often gets forgotten about.

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13 Oct 2014 13:14 #650569 by gengomerpyle
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my brakes were dragging on my 750. i ended up rebuilding all 3 calipers and the front master cylinder. it fixed my problem. when it comes to rebuilding the brakes i stick with OEM seals.

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13 Oct 2014 19:47 - 13 Oct 2014 19:58 #650598 by kzdcw
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How about this replacement Front Master Cylinder? Have used several. Works Great !

And try pulling apart the Calipers. Inspect and "Clean" real good. You might be surprised that the seals and piston aren't as bad as you think.

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13 Oct 2014 23:11 - 13 Oct 2014 23:11 #650610 by DoctoRot
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79MKII wrote:

CSP wrote: So there's no possibility for reasonably priced upgrades without swapping wheels or the whole front end? I'm probably looking around $100 for rebuild kits, and another $40-50 for a master cylinder... I'm pretty much limited to that for under ~$200?


I've been wondering the same thing. By the time you rebuild everything correctly, you can have a lot of cash invested in the old calipers. It seems there should be a fairly easy upgrade but I haven't had any luck finding one. You'd think there'd be an adapter out there that bolts right up with a specific, newer model caliper...haven't found one yet. They have nice kits in Japan but they are really expensive....around $850 without rotors or master cylinder. They sure look cool though!
japan.webike.net/products/1523198.html



thats not too bad of a deal considering those lockheed calipers are about $300 each.
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