Anyone tried cartidge emulators?

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08 Feb 2014 18:54 #621582 by Hoyt Clagwell
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I'm wanting to install cartridge emulators from Race Tech in my '84 ZN1100. Does anyone have any experience with these?

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08 Feb 2014 23:27 #621625 by koolaid_kid
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Not personally, but some on another forum prefer them over progressive springs.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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10 Feb 2014 05:40 #621740 by 80B4
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Yes, they help. When you install them make sure to replace the bushings (if your forks have them) seals and springs. I have had very good luck with the springs that Race Tech recomends.

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1978 B3 750

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10 Feb 2014 06:26 #621743 by BohicaBob
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I found the Race Tech cartridge emulators and springs to be excellent. I installed them on my '73 Z1-900.

I was impressed enough with the setup and performance to purchase another set of Race Tech's emulators and springs for my '78 KZ1000 which I'll install when I get the springs (they are back-ordered).

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10 Feb 2014 18:09 #621842 by Hoyt Clagwell
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Thanks guys. The drawings and explanations on Race Tech's site make a lot of sense to me. They did not have the right springs for my bike though, so I'm getting a set custom made at Cannon Racecraft in GA. I'm have high hopes for these emulators and if they are as impressive as I think, I will also install them in my girlfriend's '82 KZ1000.

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11 Feb 2014 06:38 #621886 by 80B4
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Are you going to replace the rear shocks? I have had good luck with "Progressive" and "Works" shocks on my older bikes.

1980B4 1000
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1978 B3 750

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11 Feb 2014 08:19 #621892 by sbc1320
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80B4 wrote: Are you going to replace the rear shocks? I have had good luck with "Progressive" and "Works" shocks on my older bikes.


I have the Progressive springs front and their shocks on the rear of my "80B4" and I like them.

1980 KZ1000 LTD-B4(MK II engine) - Progressive suspension, MTC pistons, Dynojet Stage III, all wear items replaced, WFO paint scheme(1978), etc..

Past bikes- 2 1976 Kz900's, 5 1975-76 Honda CB750's, Honda 500 -4, Honda 250, Honda 125, Honda 100, Suzuki RM 250, Honda XL350, Kawasaki KLR 650, etc..

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13 Feb 2014 19:09 - 13 Feb 2014 19:15 #622169 by Hoyt Clagwell
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Personally, I'm not a fan of progressive style springs. Not in the front end anyway. I'm with Race Tech when they say that a "regresive" system is what you want. Attained by a linear rate fork spring and a regressive self-adjusting, variable damping rate. The stock springs in my ZN1100 are the progressive type and to me they make an old school fork even worse.
I haven't looked into the rear shocks yet but if these emulators work as well as I think they will, I may go with Race Tech rear shocks as well.
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19 Feb 2014 06:33 #622758 by Grumpy Ole Artist
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I have a set to install...I was wondering about the position for the extra holes that need to be drilled in the damper rod...anybody installed a set in a kz650? If I am interpreting the directions correctly, I need to enlarge the two existing pairs of holes to 1/4"... rotate damper rod 90 degrees, and drill a new through hole between the existing two...Is this correct? I plan on calling tech support, but they are out in Cali, and I have to wait for FOUR WHOLE HOURS! LOL! Also, there is a fiber (?) seal at the top of rod...is this a wear item? It looks ok, but should I replace it while I have the forks apart? Thanx, all!

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Former rides...1976 CB360T, 1985 Shadow 700, 1985 GPZ750Turbo
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19 Feb 2014 06:44 #622760 by 650ed
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I can't speak to drilling holes in the fork cylinder (that would scare me too much unless I had extras in hand), but if the fiber ring you mentioned is like the one in the pic below, I have never seen a replacement offered. Fortunately, I don't think they wear down very much as long as the forks receive normal maintenance. Ed

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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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19 Feb 2014 07:15 #622765 by Grumpy Ole Artist
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Yup! That's the one...Well good deal, that is one less part I need ...Thanx Ed! And yes, the prospect of drilling out the rod is a daunting one, am taking it to a machine shop to get it done, but have to be double dern sure of where they need to go!

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20 Feb 2014 06:45 #622855 by Grumpy Ole Artist
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According to Louie at race tech, the two lower holes in the fork cylinder are to be enlarged to 1/4" and chamfered. rotate cylinder 90 degrees, and drill one new through hole, 1/4" also. Above and at same spacing as existing two. SImple right? not for my wimpy little drill press! Gotta machine shop right around the block, but the guy is not awnsering his phone! !@#$%^&* delays! LOL!

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