A theoretical question on bracing
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A theoretical question on bracing
15 Sep 2013 23:59
If two pieces of tubeing were stacked on each other and welded together would they be stronger or weaker compared to the same tubes spaced apart a few inches with short pieces of gussets between the tubes every foot or so? The load in question would be straight down.
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Not a great representation :huh:
Wayne
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
16 Sep 2013 00:01
I believe the second. I used something like that to brace my swinger, but in a truss shape/ angle.
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
16 Sep 2013 00:10
I am astonished I wrote clear enough for someone to understand my question, but yes that is what I am talking about. I want to make a light trailer frame and plan to use 2 tubes or pipes withgussets between every foot or so or welded together. Whichever is deemed stonger. Thanks for the reply.
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Motor Head wrote: I believe the second. I used something like that to brace my swinger, but in a truss shape/ angle.
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
16 Sep 2013 07:59
I agree, # 2 is way stronger. Make the short cross braces at 45 degree angles so that they form triangles, and it will be even better.
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
16 Sep 2013 08:33
Yup, the further apart your tubes are, the stronger they will be in bending. Which is where most of the stress in any structure like that comes from. Make triangles as testa says and you'll be good to go.
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
16 Sep 2013 19:35
To answer your question , IF we only have 2 choices , then #2
# 3 would be 1 "I" beam and do away with a bunch of welding.
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# 3 would be 1 "I" beam and do away with a bunch of welding.
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
17 Sep 2013 20:27
Thanks guys. I have a bunch of pipe. I plan to build a light ice fishing shanty with pull up wheels.
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
18 Sep 2013 02:19
Silly me :laugh:
I thought it was for a bike trailer.
I thought it was for a bike trailer.
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Re: A theoretical question on bracing
18 Sep 2013 17:25Actually I am going to make the door wide enough to accommodate one bike. The trailer will lay down so it will be easy to use.MDawnz1 wrote: Silly me :laugh:
I thought it was for a bike trailer.
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