single-sided swingarm swap
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
23 Aug 2013 16:32 - 23 Aug 2013 16:35
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
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i make what i can,and save the rest!
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
23 Aug 2013 19:51 - 23 Aug 2013 19:53
The second and third pics Leon just put up, the one of the blue one, got me interested. After that, nope. Just not doing it for me. It's me, I don't even like ssa's on the newer stuff, I see a VW trike of the early 70's. Cool for a while but not me!.. But, I do respect the work and engineering involved, for that I like them!
P.S. Leon, do you happen to know what that front fender is off of on that blue bike?
Les
P.S. Leon, do you happen to know what that front fender is off of on that blue bike?
Les
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76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle...-concours-bike-show/
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
24 Aug 2013 12:35 - 24 Aug 2013 12:42
Before I open my pie hole.... Only if it is accomplished correctly!
Truly think it out, supports are welded in place, truly aligned, fabbed to today's standards etc....
Keep in mind all, we're speaking of a 30 year old frame/suspension design and fabricated build so no way in hell is this concept going to compromise the "load" on a less than ideal design (today's standards) on a performance engine build...
Hell these old girls frame would bend and twist all over the place if driven hard thus the naming convention "Widow Makers" was born. Sure mostly defined by the 2 stroke KZ750 triples regarding frame twisting but any of the new for the time KZ's due to their power bands, torque and non prepared riding experiences threw ppl to the ground. PPL just weren't ready for the power/torque/ass pucker factor of these new Japanese engines....
Look at those images, these guys truly did it right, spent the $$$ when needed, didn't skimp the funds or monkey rig to do it right...
So if you're ready for the challenge, going to build & clean the engine up, dig into the pockets for the $$$ you're going to spend to accomplish it all correctly, go for it and post the project images for I for one would enjoy seeing the process.... Both good a& bad, hurdles & wins along the way images w/write ups...
OMR
Truly think it out, supports are welded in place, truly aligned, fabbed to today's standards etc....
Keep in mind all, we're speaking of a 30 year old frame/suspension design and fabricated build so no way in hell is this concept going to compromise the "load" on a less than ideal design (today's standards) on a performance engine build...
Hell these old girls frame would bend and twist all over the place if driven hard thus the naming convention "Widow Makers" was born. Sure mostly defined by the 2 stroke KZ750 triples regarding frame twisting but any of the new for the time KZ's due to their power bands, torque and non prepared riding experiences threw ppl to the ground. PPL just weren't ready for the power/torque/ass pucker factor of these new Japanese engines....
Look at those images, these guys truly did it right, spent the $$$ when needed, didn't skimp the funds or monkey rig to do it right...

So if you're ready for the challenge, going to build & clean the engine up, dig into the pockets for the $$$ you're going to spend to accomplish it all correctly, go for it and post the project images for I for one would enjoy seeing the process.... Both good a& bad, hurdles & wins along the way images w/write ups...

OMR
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MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
24 Aug 2013 20:50Old Man Rock wrote:
Look at those images, these guys truly did it right,........
OMR
Not all of them! Forget about the swing arm for a minute - who told this guy to paint his bike this color and why did he listen to them? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ed
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
25 Aug 2013 10:17 - 25 Aug 2013 10:17
:pinch: :pinch: :pinch: Hopefully that's a girls bike then it'd be ok....
Same time, I like pink Ed... Call me... :kiss: :laugh:
Same time, I like pink Ed... Call me... :kiss: :laugh:
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
26 Aug 2013 10:28
i am not into sssa's myself per se :whistle: .
but i do appreciate the work and engineering it takes to accomplish it.
les,
no clue on the front fender,that bike is from europe.
leon
but i do appreciate the work and engineering it takes to accomplish it.
les,
no clue on the front fender,that bike is from europe.
leon
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
26 Aug 2013 11:34les holt wrote: ...do you happen to know what that front fender is off of on that blue bike?
Klasmo in Germany used to sell those fenders before they went out of business, I've seen a couple of them in person, really nice - unfortunately I don't know who made them or if they still do.
I wanted one badly, just couldn't justify spending $ 250 on a fender

Here's a better shot of one installed on a KZ 1300:
77 KZ 650 B1, 82 GPz 1100 B2.
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
26 Aug 2013 21:55
I'd spend $250 in a heartbeat! when your finishing that 1 die hard project, you do what's necessary! It's exactly what's needed to finish a beautiful build!
Les
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77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
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accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle...-concours-bike-show/
76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle...-concours-bike-show/
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Re: single-sided swingarm swap
27 Aug 2013 14:41 - 27 Aug 2013 16:12
Les, I agree completely, what I meant was I couldn't find the money at the time (no job = no fun) and when I got back on my feet Klasmo had folded, if I come across one today I won't think twice.
To return to the original topic there was one guy way back who did a single side conversion on a 650, I believe he used a VFR arm and wheel.
His username was Oxmix, but he hasn't logged in since 2006 and the archive doesn't seem to go back that far so I couldn't find any additional info about the build - this is the only pic I've got:
To return to the original topic there was one guy way back who did a single side conversion on a 650, I believe he used a VFR arm and wheel.
His username was Oxmix, but he hasn't logged in since 2006 and the archive doesn't seem to go back that far so I couldn't find any additional info about the build - this is the only pic I've got:
77 KZ 650 B1, 82 GPz 1100 B2.
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