Clutch failed while riding. Is it the cable?

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24 Jun 2013 21:39 #593784 by Hollywoodmx
(B2 GPZ1100)

So I'm riding along 4th gear 70k/hr, went to grab the clutch leaver and it was more limp then a dude seeing Jessica Parker nude. It was like the cable broke.

Limped her home through some savvy techniques and some luck too. I thought the magnet part fell out of the case cover but it didn't. Upon inspection the magnet part with the 3 balls looked like the balls were causing some slight groves (wear) in the piece. I don't think this is related though.

Any ways I traced out the cable for damage and cant seem to find anything wrong other than the following;

The clutch adjustment locking bolt was loose. I readjusted as per the manual. Fixed that but clutch doesn't feel right still.

The cable seems longer, even with adjusting both the leaver adjuster and the mid way adjuster to the max I safely can, I cant get the play out back to the spec of the manual. Instead of 1-2mm of play it's more like 5+mm and clutch doesn't feel right.

Is my cable stretched?

- 82 GPz1100injection
- 77 Kz1075 Supercharged
- 81 Yamaha TR-1
- 81 Yamaha xv920
Calgary

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24 Jun 2013 22:13 #593793 by Patton

Hollywoodmx wrote: ...The clutch adjustment locking bolt was loose. I readjusted as per the manual. Fixed that but clutch doesn't feel right still....

Just for grins, loosen lock-nut, and adjust the screw to light seat by turning it opposite to what the manual says, then reverse 1/2 turn, then tighten the lock-nut.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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25 Jun 2013 10:24 #593858 by martin_csr
Replied by martin_csr on topic Clutch failed while riding. Is it the cable?
I would remove & inspect the cable. At the least, you should disconnect it from the lever to see if it's broken or something.

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25 Jun 2013 15:20 #593879 by zed1015
Replied by zed1015 on topic Clutch failed while riding. Is it the cable?
Pull the clutch cover and see if the center nut has come loose allowing the basket to slide before disengaging.
As a quick check you may be able to see the basket moving out by looking down the oil filler.
It will only need the nut to loosen by a small amount to give your symptoms.
Other possible causes = broken clutch springs, shattered pushrod ballbearing etc.

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25 Jun 2013 23:19 #593947 by NZGlenn
Replied by NZGlenn on topic Clutch failed while riding. Is it the cable?
Try adjusting the cable at the threaded part half way down the cable. This will be clip to the frame in the elements and beside the left hand header. This is probably corroded and won't adjust. Buy a new cable and then adjust as per other replies and the manual.

1984 GPz1100A2

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30 Jul 2013 01:36 - 30 Jul 2013 01:43 #599026 by Hollywoodmx
Replied by Hollywoodmx on topic Clutch failed while riding. Is it the cable?
I bought a new bike so I left the gpz in a lonely state as the new bike monopolized all my time. This weekend I took the cable apart at all ends and removed the clutch. put it all back togther and its now fixed. I ran it tonught and its fine.

There is some damage, what do you guys think? Are those sliding grooves normal or are they supposed to round to match the balls?Is this part hard to find?


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- 82 GPz1100injection
- 77 Kz1075 Supercharged
- 81 Yamaha TR-1
- 81 Yamaha xv920
Calgary
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30 Jul 2013 09:42 #599053 by 650ed
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30 Jul 2013 19:15 #599110 by Hollywoodmx
Replied by Hollywoodmx on topic Clutch failed while riding. Is it the cable?
Thanks man, I will pick one up.

In the end I'm not sure what caused the original issue. I'm leaning mostly toward the clutch pack got stuck somehow.

- 82 GPz1100injection
- 77 Kz1075 Supercharged
- 81 Yamaha TR-1
- 81 Yamaha xv920
Calgary

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30 Jul 2013 19:29 #599113 by 650ed
Be sure to keep it greased. Ed

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30 Jul 2013 21:59 #599127 by Hollywoodmx
Replied by Hollywoodmx on topic Clutch failed while riding. Is it the cable?

650ed wrote: Be sure to keep it greased. Ed


It funny you say that, cause I normally slightly overfill the oil and dont listen to the manual. The manual says oil at half way mark after the bike is warm and on center. But that scares the crap out of me. I followed the manual this las oil change and then the clutch acts up...so may be its not worth following the manual...

- 82 GPz1100injection
- 77 Kz1075 Supercharged
- 81 Yamaha TR-1
- 81 Yamaha xv920
Calgary

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30 Jul 2013 22:19 #599128 by 650ed
Oh, sorry I didn't word that well. I meant be sure to keep the new clutch release mechanism greased so it doesn't get scored. Ed

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