High speed wobble.

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23 Mar 2013 02:48 #578271 by donthaveakawman
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you might check the swing arm bearings. even when my axle lines up on the notches it still doesn't seem straight. and I have a wobble also.

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23 Mar 2013 10:37 #578302 by Jeff.Saunders
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donthaveakawman wrote: a steering damper wouldn't hurt but it is still an issue nonetheless.


This can help a little, but it doesn't solve the underlying problem - worse it can move the problem to a higher speed where it's even more of a risk.

Most times carefully checking everything on the bike eliminates the issue. The stock rear shocks are often the culprit - esp. if you can see evidence of oil on the damper rod.

The one most people overlook is wheel alignment. I NEVER rely on the factory marks. I ALWAYS set my bike vertical, and visually align the rear to the front by looking down both sides of the rear tire. You can use a long straight edge to help the center stand is out of the way - you just need someone to help hold the front wheel straight and the bike upright.

My turbo bike was a handful over 120mph - after rebuilding the front forks and making sure the oil in each leg was equal, much of that problem went away. It still becomes unstable under serious load - but that's frame flex and I really need to add even more bracing to the frame to solve that.

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23 Mar 2013 11:59 #578314 by 650ed
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Jeff.Saunders wrote:

donthaveakawman wrote: a steering damper wouldn't hurt but it is still an issue nonetheless.


This can help a little, but it doesn't solve the underlying problem - worse it can move the problem to a higher speed where it's even more of a risk.

Most times carefully checking everything on the bike eliminates the issue....


+1 !

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26 Mar 2013 19:47 #578960 by kawasaki mike
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apologize for interupting here but use two perfectly straight 2x4's have a buddy set on the bike and place the wood on either side of the tires. rear tire being wider you will have about 1/2 inch clearance from wood to sidewalls of front tire. each side must measure exactly the same. with this being set, tighten your axle nut. then mark each side of swing-arm axle centerline with a spot of white paint. use 1/8 increments and mark about 1 in. back on each side. will never have to true it up again as your marks will be accessable.happy scootering.

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26 Mar 2013 20:09 - 26 Mar 2013 20:10 #578966 by 650ed
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Here's a video that shows the "string" method of aligning wheels. Ed


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26 Mar 2013 21:19 #578992 by donthaveakawman
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I wonder if persay one side wheelbearing were bad, would that mess up the forks on that side?

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28 Mar 2013 03:33 #579223 by NZGlenn
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Great video. Probably needs translation for you americans :)

Both my GPz1100 and my brothers 750Turbo are rock solid to 150mph, except anything over 120mph sweepers induce a gentle weave on both bikes. We just ride through it, but scares the bejesus out of anyone following.

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28 Mar 2013 12:23 #579267 by 531blackbanshee
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fluorescent light tubes are useful as straightedges for wheel alignment.

i mean,
before you do the darth vader dealio :laugh: !

i wonder how many of these bikes have the neck un square from the factory?

didn't pops yosh used to cut them off and square them up and weld them back?

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28 Mar 2013 16:18 #579295 by DesertKZ
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I've used the string method before on cars with great success.

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31 Mar 2013 03:31 - 02 Apr 2013 02:47 #579755 by donthaveakawman
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the grease gun worked wonders on Ilene
<I keep thinking of stuff, check the chain for stuck links, I have used pb blaster and have noticed no wear on the o-rings>edit
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