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Swing Arm, vertical play. KZ650 C2
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04 May 2011 13:40 #448819
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I was cleaning my chain yesterday and noticed my swing arm moved about 1/8" horizontally in one direction, which I'm assuming is a bad thing. The PO used some crappy oil to lube the previous chain so the swing arm itself is filthy and I'm having some problems seeing what's going on.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
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04 May 2011 14:01 #448824
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Motorcycle Shop Owner/Operator
79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
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Replied by TeK9iNe on topic Swing Arm, vertical play. KZ650 C2
Probly a bad thing...
I would cleanup and dessasemble/inspect as required and figure out exactly whats happening.
Refer to your manual for tolerences... or someone will have them here.
I would cleanup and dessasemble/inspect as required and figure out exactly whats happening.
Refer to your manual for tolerences... or someone will have them here.
Motorcycle Shop Owner/Operator
79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors
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04 May 2011 15:12 #448848
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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I would clean it up really well, unbolt the shocks, and try twisting the axle end of the swingarm. If you can feel any play replace the swingarm bearings. If there is no play, but there is lateral movement of the swing arm on the swing arm pivot shaft you need to see if the previous owner removed the swing arm caps or if the swing arm pivot lock nut is not fully tightened. Ed
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04 May 2011 15:35 #448854
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74 Z1-A stock
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Replied by otakar on topic Swing Arm, vertical play. KZ650 C2
2X What Ed said. Play in the swing arm pivot can get really harry in a hi speed banking turn. That is a good way of getting thrown.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
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78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
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04 May 2011 16:56 #448875
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What do you folks use to cleanup seriously caked on oil and crud?
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04 May 2011 17:03 #448878
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Swing Arm, vertical play. KZ650 C2
First wipe of with a rag and than I use engine cleaner (generic)You can also use Fuel oil.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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11 May 2011 19:47 #450357
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78 KZ650 C2 - Runner
77 KZ650 B1 - Project
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Ok, finally got the swing arm cleaned up (took forever!) and it looks like the needle bearings are shot. I'll order up a set from Z1 as soon as they have them back in stock, but I was wondering if I should think about replacing anything else since I'll be pulling everything apart. Should I be checking anything else for wear while I'm in there? Are there better alternatives to the needle bearings?
Appreciate all the help. I don't know what I'd do without you guys.
Appreciate all the help. I don't know what I'd do without you guys.
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18 May 2011 14:27 #451916
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KZ1000P 1991
Replied by johnbgood on topic Swing Arm, vertical play. KZ650 C2
Hi
I'm in the same boat. Bought new bearings from Z1.
But they did not have the seals or the piece that the bearings ride on.
I don't think I want to replace the bearings without the other items.
I think Bike bandit had them?
Johnbgood
I'm in the same boat. Bought new bearings from Z1.
But they did not have the seals or the piece that the bearings ride on.
I don't think I want to replace the bearings without the other items.
I think Bike bandit had them?
Johnbgood
KZ1000P 1991
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