Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
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Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 14:35
I'm ready to replace a bent fork on my 1979 KZ400 LTD and the manual says use 5W20 fork oil. Nobody around stocks it. Will straight 20 weight high detergent motor oil work in place of 5W20 fork oil, or is fork oil a completly fifferent beast all together?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 15:11
Ridge Runner wrote:
Whoa! , motor oil is not hydraulic and way too heavy anyway.
Use Automatic transmission fluid if only nothing else is available.
Otherwise use the straight 20wt .
I'm ready to replace a bent fork on my 1979 KZ400 LTD and the manual says use 5W20 fork oil. Nobody around stocks it. Will straight 20 weight high detergent motor oil work in place of 5W20 fork oil, or is fork oil a completly fifferent beast all together?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Whoa! , motor oil is not hydraulic and way too heavy anyway.
Use Automatic transmission fluid if only nothing else is available.
Otherwise use the straight 20wt .
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 15:55
5W20 oil is actually a 5W oil that lubricates as well as 20w oil when it is hot, or so Mobil oil taught us. If you can't get the fork oil, use the ATF. Straight 20w would prduce quite a rough ride. Just my $0.02.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 18:30
NAPA should have hydraulic fluid. If what you want is not in stock, they can order it just like they order a 1983 Volvo ATE rear caliper rebuild kit. If the guy tells you they can't, ask to talk to 'the old guy'.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 19:51
I agree, your best bet if fork oil or 5w20 motor oil is not available, would be ATF. It will lubricate, is a hydraulic fluid and keeps seals healthy.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 21:27
For me (at 235 lbs) and my riding style, I have found that 1/2 10 wt and 1/2 15 wt ( guess that makes it 12 1/2 wt) fork oil has worked best in the 79, 80, 82, 750 twins, 79, 80, KZ650's, and 82 KZ1000M. If you weigh less or ride less aggressively then straight 10 wt would probably be best. ATF is generally somewhere near 10 wt, although I have been unable to find any manufacturer that lists the wt of ATF.
You could order fork oil online and have it in 2-3 days.
Post edited by: steell, at: 2006/04/14 00:29
You could order fork oil online and have it in 2-3 days.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 22:24
steell wrote:
Scott
Just to clarify, ATF=Automatic Transmission Fluid, right?ATF is generally somewhere near 10 wt, although I have been unable to find any manufacturer that lists the wt of ATF.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
13 Apr 2006 22:57
Great! that stuff is easy to find.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
14 Apr 2006 07:05
Thanks for all the info. You guys probably saved me a set of fork seals at the very least. I suspected motor oil wasn’t the stuff to use but when I read “SAE 5W20” in the manual it sure sounded like a motor oil designation to me.
I have plenty of ATF on hand. Since it’s a fairly simple procedure to change the fluid in these things I think I’ll experiment and see what works best.
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I have plenty of ATF on hand. Since it’s a fairly simple procedure to change the fluid in these things I think I’ll experiment and see what works best.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
14 Apr 2006 10:21
Motor oil will work fine. We're not rocket science here. 140wt gear lube is not the thing to use of course but any light weight motor oil won't hurt a thing and I'd bet no body could tell 2 cents worth of difference.
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Re: Use Motor Oil for Fork Oil?
14 Apr 2006 11:54
That was my initial thought as well Ron. In fact I had already purchased a quart of SAE 20 motor oil just prior to posting my question. My background is in auto parts but I have almost no experience with motorcycles, which is why I sought advice from you guys.
I’ve leapt without looking before and paid the price. One doesn’t put brake fluid in a power steering pump or motor oil in an automatic transmission.
So to clarify, you have used motor oil in forks with no problems? I just want to be sure. Thanks for the input.
I’ve leapt without looking before and paid the price. One doesn’t put brake fluid in a power steering pump or motor oil in an automatic transmission.
So to clarify, you have used motor oil in forks with no problems? I just want to be sure. Thanks for the input.
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