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02 Feb 2010 21:23 #346167 by Afrosemite
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Strange question, really more of a musing.

Ya know that brace that connects the rear caliper back to the frame. I think the official term is a "torque link?" Anyway, I've decided that I hate it and want it gone. I feel like I can understand its importance but have no idea how far i'm going to have to go to get rid of it. New caliper? New swingarm? New religion?

\'78 Kz650d sr

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02 Feb 2010 23:57 - 02 Feb 2010 23:57 #346176 by Bad Dad
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Afrosemite wrote:

Strange question, really more of a musing.

Ya know that brace that connects the rear caliper back to the frame. I think the official term is a "torque link?" Anyway, I've decided that I hate it and want it gone. I feel like I can understand its importance but have no idea how far i'm going to have to go to get rid of it. New caliper? New swingarm? New religion?


Man you need it... it holds the caliper in place. All bikes have'um (disk or drum brakes). Ignor it - nobody else notices it, but you.:unsure:

76 KZ900LTD
82 GPz750R1
01 VULCAN 800A-CHOPPED
76 IRONHEAD-CHOPPED
77 RD 400 Cafe
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03 Feb 2010 05:49 #346204 by Afrosemite
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To be honest, i didn't really think much of it until I got to looking here: www.wrenchmonkees.com/monkee11.html

Now I am confused because it totally makes sense why this bit is necessary, but I can also envision a world where the caliper is attached to the swingarm in such a way that the extra brace is unnecessary

\'78 Kz650d sr
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03 Feb 2010 07:20 #346212 by 650ed
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I don't think the bike in the picture is actually a roadworthy machine, so they can make it appear that nothing is needed to keep the brake caliper in place when the brakes are applied. It might be possible to fabricate a bracket that secures the caliper to the swingarm near the rear axle, but think of the load placed on the one side of the swingarm and the leverage if applied at the rear of the swingarm instead of forward near the swingarm pivot. The picture makes it appear that the caliper pushes agaist the rear shock when brake is applied. Another little magic item in the picture is the front brake line arrangement. What keeps the front brake lines from rubbing on the tire when turning? Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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03 Feb 2010 07:27 #346214 by Afrosemite
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I can see your point about the front brake lines, and I accept that this is obvious a bike meant more for looking than for operating, but.....

How is mounting the caliper one side of the swingarm so different from mounting it on one side of the front fork?
I'm starting to accept that this brace is just something I am going to get used to (honestly, it's break in symmetry that bothers me most of all.) I'm just trying to get a handle on the physics now

\'78 Kz650d sr

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03 Feb 2010 07:44 #346217 by timebomb33
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not all brakes use a tourque arm some have a solid mount that the caliper slides front and back on instead it is it is grooved then slides into place over a lug that is part of the swingarm allowing full axle adjustment but not allowing the caliper to swing up when the brake is used.

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03 Feb 2010 07:55 #346220 by roy-b-boy-b
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The shafty doesn't use one does it?

If i wanted it gone i would just fab a gracket near the back of the swingarm. Roy

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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03 Feb 2010 09:59 #346230 by 79MKII
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I've seen quite a few production bikes with no visible torque link. Check out the HD's:

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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03 Feb 2010 10:15 #346233 by 79MKII
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You could run a short link to the shock bolt...

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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03 Feb 2010 10:17 - 03 Feb 2010 10:18 #346235 by 79MKII
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Another shot with the caliper on the top side:

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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03 Feb 2010 11:27 #346244 by 79MKII
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and another HD, softail version...

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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03 Feb 2010 14:07 #346255 by StreetfighterKz
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This is an aftermarket piece but it's the same shape as the OEM caliper bracket on Ducati Monsters. The long slot goes over a pin welded to the back side of the swingarm.

Later, Doug

1978 z1000 Streetfighter
1976 z900 Stripfighter (work in progress)
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1989 Vmax

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