Front brake lever problem?

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24 Jan 2010 13:46 #344327 by polkat
Front brake lever problem? was created by polkat
The front disk brakes on my 1982 KZ750H3 work fine. The lever feels hard when pulled and doesn't need any pumping (no air in system) and all seems fine. Except that the lever pulls in almost to the point of touching the grip! The pads are nearly new so it's not a wear problem. I've tried moving the master cylinder into different positions on the (stock) handlebars, but it doesn't help. Once the pads start to wear I'm afraid the lever will actually hit the grip!

I see no adjustment for this. Any ideas? Thanks!

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24 Jan 2010 13:50 #344330 by 650ed
Replied by 650ed on topic Front brake lever problem?
There's air in the line.

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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24 Jan 2010 14:07 #344335 by polkat
Replied by polkat on topic Front brake lever problem?
That's what I thought at first, so I bleed them out. No air, and the lever is nice and hard when pulled. Maybe the lever is bent. It was dropped on that side by a previous owner, but the lever looks good.

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24 Jan 2010 14:55 - 24 Jan 2010 15:03 #344347 by Bluemeanie
Replied by Bluemeanie on topic Front brake lever problem?
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationCould be the wrong lever too. If so, here is one for cheap!


1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!
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24 Jan 2010 15:19 #344351 by sbc1320
Replied by sbc1320 on topic Front brake lever problem?
As the pads wear, the piston moves outward so it shouldn't change the feel of the lever. Sounds like air in the sytem like above poster said. Good luck.

1980 KZ1000 LTD-B4(MK II engine) - Progressive suspension, MTC pistons, Dynojet Stage III, all wear items replaced, WFO paint scheme(1978), etc..

Past bikes- 2 1976 Kz900's, 5 1975-76 Honda CB750's, Honda 500 -4, Honda 250, Honda 125, Honda 100, Suzuki RM 250, Honda XL350, Kawasaki KLR 650, etc..

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24 Jan 2010 15:29 #344352 by MFolks
Replied by MFolks on topic Front brake lever problem?
Open the master cylinder,inspect the two small holes in the bottom for clogging. If plugged, use a wooden toothpick to open them up and try again.

Caution!! brake fluid is a paint stripper, so avoid getting any fluid on the tank/fender.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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24 Jan 2010 20:18 #344426 by polkat
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No, the holes are clear, and as said it is not air in the system (I've bleed a thousand vehicles in my time).

The wrong lever might be the answer I suppose. Wouldn't hurt to change it. Thanks for the link

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25 Jan 2010 05:52 #344452 by Bluemeanie
Replied by Bluemeanie on topic Front brake lever problem?
I could be wrong here but before you order new lever, compare it to clutch lever. Other than how they look at business end they should be identical in appearance. Length, size, taper, etc. Also check where lever contacts master cylinder inside for any wear. A little wear at that point goes a long way in how it feels. Plus, if you rebuilt it, did you just use new seals or a new piston/rod? Wrong kit (piston/rod length?) may be problem? Grabbing at straws here. :)

1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!

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27 Jan 2010 15:34 #344951 by polkat
Replied by polkat on topic Front brake lever problem?
Well, I just went out and took a long look at it. I tried bleeding it again and can't produce any air at all. Looked at the master cylinder and the number is right for this bike ('82 KZ750H3).

Now about the lever; As I mentioned, the bike had been dropped on it's right side, so maybe the previous owner replaced the lever with something different. Here's the lever...

It is longer then the clutch lever and of a different shape. It has no Kawasaki number on it at all, just the letter "C" in a circle as seen. For those who have this bike, does this look like the right lever?
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27 Jan 2010 16:24 #344961 by JMKZHI
Replied by JMKZHI on topic Front brake lever problem?
Good KZ750 brake lever photos can be found at ebbaayy.

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