Z650 frame oddity

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04 Oct 2009 09:17 #325412 by Geo Z
Z650 frame oddity was created by Geo Z
Hello all,

Please take a look at this picture of my Z650's frame (sorry for the bad quality) :



Can anybody tell me what the piece of pipe at the center is for?
It does appear on the drawings in my part book (1982-1983), but not on the previous versions.

Any clue would be greatly appreciated!

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04 Oct 2009 10:44 - 04 Oct 2009 10:45 #325426 by Mark Wing
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Welcome to KZR. It's for a factory cable lock.

Mark

Jesus loves you Everyone else thinks your an ***

77 KZ650 C1 with ZX7 forks, GPZ mono rear, wider 18 police wheels and Yoshimura motor.

Yorba Linda Cal.
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04 Oct 2009 11:01 #325431 by Geo Z
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At last, I understand! Thanks a lot Mark!
Do you by any chance have information on that factory cable lock (picture, reference number?)

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04 Oct 2009 12:49 #325461 by Mcdroid
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Geo Z wrote:

At last, I understand! Thanks a lot Mark!
Do you by any chance have information on that factory cable lock (picture, reference number?)


Since your bike was never released in North America, we can get no information on it or parts for it (the USA Kawasaki internet site is strictly for models released in the US...not even 'Canada only' models info is available). So if that cable lock system was unique to the F4, then it'll have to come from someone with a European released microfiche.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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04 Oct 2009 13:15 #325466 by Iron Duke
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I have the same short capped tube on my bike, owners manual told me what it was,but never said how it was used, no pictures(we love pictures)nothin.the Invasion couninues. Duke

1982 KZ550 LTD C-3
1979 XS1100 F Yamaha

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04 Oct 2009 14:11 #325472 by kawasakifreak77
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Really? That's neat, be cool to see some factory info on this.

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04 Oct 2009 14:31 #325474 by Mark Wing
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Jesus loves you Everyone else thinks your an ***

77 KZ650 C1 with ZX7 forks, GPZ mono rear, wider 18 police wheels and Yoshimura motor.

Yorba Linda Cal.

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05 Oct 2009 01:16 - 05 Oct 2009 01:22 #325572 by Geo Z
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Mcdroid wrote:

Since your bike was never released in North America, we can get no information on it or parts for it (the USA Kawasaki internet site is strictly for models released in the US...not even 'Canada only' models info is available). So if that cable lock system was unique to the F4, then it'll have to come from someone with a European released microfiche.


Apparently the Kawasaki cable lock was also mounted on the GPZ1100, KZ550 and KZ750 Spectre - and maybe also on other Kawasaki bikes of the early 80's which were released in the US.
Anyways, as you can see, hardly anybody knows about this option and detailed information is difficult to find - which is surprising for an original Kawasaki part, don't you think? I have a lot of documents regarding the 650 F4, including exploded views & part lists, etc... but not a word about the cable lock.

Thanks to all for your answers.
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05 Oct 2009 04:17 - 05 Oct 2009 07:49 #325577 by Patton
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In kawasaki.com's parts diagram for 1982 KZ650-H2 (CSR) under Frame Fittings, the part no. 92066-1077 PLUG,9.5X8 is shown used on the following models (see listing below under the image). ):

Good Luck! :)

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Model (337):
EX250-E1 (Ninja 250R) (1986)
EX250-E2 (Ninja 250R) (1987)
EX250-F10 (Ninja 250R) (1996)
EX250-F11 (Ninja 250R) (1997)
EX250-F12 (Ninja 250R) (1998)
EX250-F13 (Ninja 250R) (1999)
EX250-F14 (Ninja 250R) (2000)
EX250-F15 (Ninja 250R) (2001)
EX250-F16 (Ninja 250R) (2002)
EX250-F17 (Ninja 250R) (2003)
EX250-F18 (Ninja 250R) (2004)
EX250-F19 (Ninja 250R) (2005)
EX250-F2 (Ninja 250R) (1988)
EX250-F3 (Ninja 250R) (1989)
EX250-F4 (Ninja 250R) (1990)
EX250-F6 (Ninja 250R) (1992)
EX250F6F (Ninja 250R) (2006)
EX250-F7 (Ninja 250R) (1993)
EX250F7F (Ninja 250R) (2007)
EX250-F8 (Ninja 250R) (1994)
EX250-F9 (Ninja 250R) (1995)
EX305-B1 (GPz 305) (1983)
EX500-A1 (EX500) (1987)
EX500-A2 (EX500) (1988)
EX500-A3 (EX500) (1989)
EX500-A4 (EX500) (1990)
EX500-A5 (EX500) (1991)
EX500-A6 (EX500) (1992)
EX500-A7 (EX500) (1993)
EX500-D1 (Ninja 500) (1994)
EX500-D10 (Ninja 500R) (2003)
EX500-D11 (Ninja 500R) (2004)
EX500-D12 (Ninja 500R) (2005)
EX500-D2 (Ninja 500) (1995)
EX500-D3 (Ninja 500) (1996)
EX500-D4 (Ninja 500R) (1997)
EX500-D5 (Ninja 500R) (1998)
EX500-D6 (Ninja 500R) (1999)
EX500D6F (Ninja 500R) (2006)
EX500-D7 (Ninja 500R) (2000)
EX500D7F (Ninja 500R) (2007)
EX500-D8 (Ninja 500R) (2001)
EX500D8F (Ninja 500R) (2008)
EX500-D9 (Ninja 500R) (2002)
EX500D9F (Ninja 500R) (2009)
EX650A6F (Ninja 650R) (2006)
EX650A7F (Ninja 650R) (2007)
EX650A8F (Ninja 650R) (2008)
KE100-A10 (KE100) (1981)
KE100-A5 (KE100) (1976)
KE100-A6 (KE100) (1977)
KE100-A7 (KE100) (1978)
KE100-A8 (KE100) (1979)
KE100-A9 (KE100) (1980)
KE100-B1 (KE100) (1982)
KE100-B10 (KE100) (1991)
KE100-B11 (KE100) (1992)
KE100-B12 (KE100) (1993)
KE100-B13 (KE100) (1994)
KE100-B14 (KE100) (1995)
KE100-B15 (KE100) (1996)
KE100-B16 (KE100) (1997)
KE100-B17 (KE100) (1998)
KE100-B2 (KE100) (1983)
KE100-B3 (KE100) (1984)
KE100-B4 (CANADA ONLY) (1985)
KE100-B5 (KE100) (1986)
KE100-B6 (KE100) (1987)
KE100-B7 (KE100) (1988)
KE100-B8 (KE100) (1989)
KE100-B9 (KE100) (1990)
KE125-A10 (KE125) (1983)
KE125-A9 (KE125) (1982)
KE175-D4 (KE175) (1982)
KE175-D5 (KE175) (1983)
KL250-A3 (KLR250) (1980)
KL250-A4 (KLR250) (1981)
KL250-A5 (KLR250) (1982)
KL250-C1 (KLR250) (1983)
KL250-C2 (KLR250) (1984)
KL250G9F (Super Sherpa) (2009)
KLF300-A1 (Bayou 300) (1986)
KLF300-A2 (Bayou 300) (1987)
KLT110-A1 (KLT110) (1984)
KLT160-A1 (KLT160) (1985)
KLT185-A1 (KLT185) (1986)
KLT185-A2 (KLT185) (1987)
KLT200-A1 (KLT200) (1981)
KLT200-A2 (KLT200) (1981)
KLT200-A3 (KLT200) (1982)
KLT200-A4 (KLT200) (1983)
KLT200-A4A (Duckster) (1983)
KLT250-A1 (KLT250) (1982)
KVF360-A1 (Prairie 360 4X4) (2003)
KVF360-A2 (Prairie 360 4X4) (2004)
KVF360-A3 (Prairie 360 4X4) (2005)
KVF360A6F (Prairie 360 4X4) (2006)
KVF360A7F (Prairie 360 4X4) (2007)
KVF360A8F (Prairie 360 4X4) (2008)
KVF360A9F (Prairie 360 4X4) (2009)
KVF360AAF (Prairie 360 4X4) (2010)
KVF360-C1 (Prairie 360 4X4 Advantage Classic) (2003)
KVF360-C2 (Prairie 360 4X4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2004)
KVF360-C3 (Prairie 360 4X4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2005)
KVF360C6F (Prairie 360 4X4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2006)
KVF360C7F (Prairie 360 4X4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2007)
KVF360C8F (Prairie 360 4X4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2008)
KVF360C9F (Prairie 360 4X4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2009)
KVF360CAF (Prairie 360 4X4 Realtree APG HD) (2010)
KVF650-A1 (Prairie 650 4X4) (2002)
KVF650-A2 (Prairie 650 4X4) (2003)
KVF650-B1 (Prairie 650 4X4 Advantage Classic) (2002)
KVF650-B2 (Prairie 650 4X4 Advantage Classic) (2003)
KVF650-D1 (Brute Force 650 4x4) (2005)
KVF650D6F (Brute Force 650 4x4) (2006)
KVF650D7F (Brute Force 650 4x4) (2007)
KVF650D8F (Brute Force 650 4x4) (2008)
KVF650D9F (Brute Force 650 4x4) (2009)
KVF650DAF (Brute Force 650 4x4) (2010)
KVF650-E1 (Brute Force 650 4x4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2005)
KVF650E6F (Brute Force 650 4x4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2006)
KVF650E7F (Brute Force 650 4x4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2007)
KVF650E8F (Brute Force 650 4x4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2008)
KVF650E9F (Brute Force 650 4x4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2009)
KVF650F6F (Brute Force 650 4x4i) (2006)
KVF650F7F (Brute Force 650 4x4i) (2007)
KVF650F8F (Brute Force 650 4x4i) (2008)
KVF650F9F (Brute Force 650 4x4i) (2009)
KVF650G6F (Brute Force 650 4x4i Hardwoods Green HD) (2006)
KVF650G7F (Brute Force 650 4x4i Hardwoods Green HD) (2007)
KVF650G8F (Brute Force 650 4x4i Hardwoods Green HD) (2008)
KVF650G9F (Brute Force 650 4x4i Hardwoods Green HD) (2009)
KVF650H7F (Brute Force 650 4x4i) (2007)
KVF650H8F (Brute Force 650 4x4i) (2008)
KVF700-A1 (Prairie 700 4x4) (2004)
KVF700-A2 (Prairie 700 4x4) (2005)
KVF700A6F (Prairie 700 4x4) (2006)
KVF700-B1 (Prairie 700 4x4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2004)
KVF700-B2 (Prairie 700 4x4 Hardwoods Green HD) (2005)
KVF700-D1 (Prairie 700 4x4 Team Green Special Edition) (2005)
KVF700D6F (Prairie 700 4x4 Team Green Special Edition) (2006)
KVF750-A1 (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2005)
KVF750A6F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2006)
KVF750A7F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2007)
KVF750-B1 (Brute Force 750 4x4i Hardwoods Green HD) (2005)
KVF750B6F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2006)
KVF750B7F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2007)
KVF750B7FA (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2007)
KVF750C6F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2006)
KVF750C7F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2007)
KVF750D8F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2008)
KVF750D9F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2009)
KVF750DAF (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2010)
KVF750E8F (Brute Force 750 4x4i Hardwoods Green HD) (2008)
KVF750E8FA (Brute Force 750 4x4i NRA Outdoors) (2008)
KVF750E9F (Brute Force 750 4x4i Hardwoods Green HD) (2009)
KVF750E9FA (Brute Force 750 4x4i NRA Outdoors) (2009)
KVF750EAF (Brute Force 750 4x4i Realtree APG HD) (2010)
KVF750F8F (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2008)
KVF750FAF (Brute Force 750 4x4i) (2010)
KZ305-A1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ305-A2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ305-B1 (CSR Belt) (1982)
KZ305-B2 (LTD) (1987)
KZ305-B3 (LTD) (1988)
KZ440-A2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ440-A3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ440-A4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ440-B2 (1981)
KZ440-D2 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D3 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D4 (LTD Belt) (1982)
KZ440-D5 (LTD Belt) (1983)
KZ440-G1 (1982)
KZ550-A3 (1982)
KZ550-A4 (1983)
KZ550-C3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ550-C4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ550-H1 (GPz) (1982)
KZ550-H2 (GPz) (1983)
KZ650-H1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ650-H2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ650-H3 (CSR) (1983)
KZ700-A1 (1984)
KZ750-E2 (1981)
KZ750-E3 (1982)
KZ750-H2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ750-H3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ750-H4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ750-K1 (LTD Belt) (1983)
KZ750-K2 (Canada Only) (1984)
KZ750-L3 (1983)
KZ750-R1 (GPz) (1982)
VN1500-N1 (Vulcan 1500 Classic Fi) (2000)
VN1500-N2 (Vulcan 1500 Classic Fi) (2001)
VN1500-N3 (Vulcan 1500 Classic Fi) (2002)
VN1500-N4 (Vulcan 1500 Classic) (2005)
VN1500N6F (Vulcan 1500 Classic) (2006)
VN1500N7F (Vulcan 1500 Classic) (2007)
VN1500N7FA (Vulcan 1500 Classic) (2007)
VN1500N8F (Vulcan 1500 Classic) (2008)
VN1500N8FA (Vulcan 1500 Classic) (2008)
VN1500T6F (Vulcan 1500 Classic) (2006)
VN700-A1 (LTD) (1985)
ZG1000-A1 (Concours) (1986)
ZG1000-A10 (Concours) (1995)
ZG1000-A11 (CANADA ONLY) (1996)
ZG1000-A12 (Concours) (1997)
ZG1000-A13 (Concours) (1998)
ZG1000-A14 (Concours) (1999)
ZG1000-A15 (Concours) (2000)
ZG1000-A16 (Concours) (2001)
ZG1000-A17 (Concours) (2002)
ZG1000-A18 (Concours) (2003)
ZG1000-A19 (Concours) (2004)
ZG1000-A2 (Concours) (1987)
ZG1000-A20 (Concours) (2005)
ZG1000-A3 (Concours) (1988)
ZG1000-A4 (CANADA ONLY) (1989)
ZG1000-A5 (Concours) (1990)
ZG1000-A6 (Concours) (1991)
ZG1000A6F (Concours) (2006)
ZG1000-A7 (Concours) (1992)
ZG1000-A8 (Concours) (1993)
ZG1000-A9 (Concours) (1994)
ZG1200-A1 (Voyager XII) (1986)
ZG1200-B1 (Voyager XII) (1987)
ZG1200-B10 (Voyager XII) (1996)
ZG1200-B11 (Voyager XII) (1997)
ZG1200-B12 (Voyager XII) (1998)
ZG1200-B13 (Voyager XII) (1999)
ZG1200-B14 (Voyager XII) (2000)
ZG1200-B15 (Voyager XII) (2001)
ZG1200-B16 (Voyager XII) (2002)
ZG1200-B17 (Voyager XII) (2003)
ZG1200-B2 (Voyager XII) (1988)
ZG1200-B3 (Voyager XII) (1989)
ZG1200-B4 (Voyager XII) (1990)
ZG1200-B5 (Voyager XII) (1991)
ZG1200-B6 (Voyager XII) (1992)
ZG1200-B7 (Voyager XII) (1993)
ZG1200-B8 (Voyager XII) (1994)
ZG1200-B9 (Voyager XII) (1995)
ZN1300-A1 (Voyager) (1983)
ZN1300-A2 (Voyager) (1984)
ZN1300-A3 (Voyager) (1985)
ZN1300-A4 (Voyager) (1986)
ZN1300-A5 (Voyager) (1987)
ZN1300-A6 (Voyager) (1988)
ZR750-H1 (ZR-7S) (2001)
ZR750-H2 (ZR-7S) (2002)
ZR750-H3 (ZR-7S) (2003)
ZR750-H4 (CANADA ONLY) (2004)
ZR750-H5 (CANADA ONLY) (2005)
ZR750-K1 (Z750S) (2005)
ZR750K6F (Z750S) (2006)
ZX1000-A1 (Ninja 1000R) (1986)
ZX1000-A2 (Ninja 1000R) (1987)
ZX1000-B1 (Ninja ZX-10) (1988)
ZX1000-B2 (Ninja ZX-10) (1989)
ZX1000-B3 (Ninja ZX-10) (1990)
ZX1100-A1 (GPz) (1983)
ZX1100-A2 (GPz) (1984)
ZX1100-C1 (Ninja ZX-11) (1990)
ZX1100-C2 (Ninja ZX-11) (1991)
ZX1100-C3 (Ninja ZX-11) (1992)
ZX1100-C4 (Ninja ZX-11) (1993)
ZX1100-D1 (Ninja ZX-11) (1993)
ZX1100-D2 (Ninja ZX-11) (1994)
ZX1100-D3 (Ninja ZX-11) (1995)
ZX1100-D4 (Ninja ZX-11) (1996)
ZX1100-D5 (Ninja ZX-11) (1997)
ZX1100-D6 (Ninja ZX-11) (1998)
ZX1100-D7 (Ninja ZX-11) (1999)
ZX1100-D8 (Ninja ZX-11) (2000)
ZX1100-D9 (Ninja ZX-11) (2001)
ZX1100-E1 (GPZ 1100) (1995)
ZX1100-E2 (GPZ 1100) (1996)
ZX1100-E3 (GPZ 1100) (1997)
ZX1100-F1 (GPZ 1100 ABS) (1996)
ZX1200-A1 (Ninja ZX-12R) (2000)
ZX1200-A2 (Ninja ZX-12R) (2001)
ZX1200-B1 (Ninja ZX-12R) (2002)
ZX1200-B2 (Ninja ZX-12R) (2003)
ZX1200-B3 (Ninja ZX-12R) (2004)
ZX1200-B4 (Ninja ZX-12R) (2005)
ZX1200B6F (Ninja ZX-12R (European)) (2006)
ZX1200-C1 (ZZR1200) (2002)
ZX1200-C2 (ZZR1200) (2003)
ZX1200-C3 (ZZR1200) (2004)
ZX1200-C4 (ZZR1200) (2005)
ZX550-A1 (GPz) (1984)
ZX550-A2 (GPz) (1985)
ZX550-A3 (GPz) (1986)
ZX600-A1 (Ninja 600) (1985)
ZX600-A2 (Ninja 600) (1986)
ZX600-A3 (Ninja 600) (1987)
ZX600-B1 (Ninja 600RX) (1987)
ZX600-D2 (Ninja ZX-6) (1991)
ZX600-D3 (Ninja ZX-6) (1992)
ZX600-D4 (Ninja ZX-6) (1993)
ZX600-E1 (Ninja ZX-6) (1993)
ZX600-E10 (Ninja ZX-6) (2002)
ZX600-E11 (ZZR600) (2003)
ZX600-E12 (ZZR600) (2004)
ZX600-E13 (CANADA ONLY) (2005)
ZX600-E2 (Ninja ZX-6) (1994)
ZX600-E3 (Ninja ZX-6) (1995)
ZX600-E4 (Ninja ZX-6) (1996)
ZX600-E5 (Ninja ZX-6) (1997)
ZX600-E6 (Ninja ZX-6) (1998)
ZX600-E7 (Ninja ZX-6) (1999)
ZX600-E8 (Ninja ZX-6) (2000)
ZX600-E9 (Ninja ZX-6) (2001)
ZX600-F1 (Ninja ZX-6R) (1995)
ZX600-F2 (Ninja ZX-6R) (1996)
ZX600-F3 (Ninja ZX-6R) (1997)
ZX600-G1 (Ninja ZX-6R) (1998)
ZX600-G2 (Ninja ZX-6R) (1999)
ZX750-A1 (GPz 750) (1983)
ZX750-A2 (GPz 750) (1984)
ZX750-A3 (GPz 750) (1985)
ZX750-E1 (GPz 750 Turbo) (1984)
ZX750-E2 (GPz 750 Turbo) (1985)
ZX750-F1 (Ninja 750R) (1987)
ZX750-F2 (Ninja 750R) (1988)
ZX750-F3 (Ninja 750R) (1989)
ZX750-F4 (Ninja 750R) (1990)
ZX900-A1 (Ninja) (1984)
ZX900-A2 (Ninja) (1985)
ZX900-A3 (Ninja) (1986)
ZX900-B1 (Ninja ZX-9R) (1994)
ZX900-B2 (Ninja ZX-9R) (1995)
ZX900-B3 (Ninja ZX-9R) (1996)
ZX900-B4 (Ninja ZX-9R) (1997)
ZX900-C1 (Ninja ZX-9R) (1998)
ZX900-C2 (Ninja ZX-9R) (1999)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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05 Oct 2009 07:38 #325630 by chance
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This is before they had lock cutters When I guy would get some buds and pick your bike up and put it in back of their pick up truck..:laugh: :laugh:

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05 Oct 2009 22:45 #325770 by switch
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Hope this will answer your questions. I will reply again with explanation if the pic loads.

1981 KZ1000 M1 CSR
2004 Vulcan 1500 Classic (gone)
You do not have to believe everything you think!
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05 Oct 2009 22:52 #325771 by switch
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That was sweet. Now, that tube is continuous all the way through to the frame tube wall on the other side from the entry point. Beware trying to f**! with this thing! It requires some real good welding skills to cover up attempts to remove the stub out. Ask me how I know!

There is a braided steel cable embedded in the tube and up through the appliance you see in the pic. There will probably be the remainder of the cable in the stub out.

My advice: Make it look smooth and pretty and forget it.

Good luck on the project. You will find lots of satisfaction in the process. I have.

1981 KZ1000 M1 CSR
2004 Vulcan 1500 Classic (gone)
You do not have to believe everything you think!

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