New leaky fork seals.

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New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 07:49
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OK- Last year about this time I completely rebuilt my front fork. It lasted less than a month and started to leak again. There is no pitting in the tubes and top bushing seams fine. I have a fork brace on it, so there is no flex. I have decided that i will change the fork seals again and maybe go to a heavier oil if I can find come. In the old days you could find oil to about 30W today the heaviest you can find is 20W. I feel that is too light for me. This is for my GPZ1100 and I feel the front end is too soft and it bottoms out all the time. I never use my rear brake, since it has almost no effect on the bike and the front fender hits the fearing lower mount every time that I brake hard. I have decided that I will expend the money and get a set of Progressive front springs. But it is the front seals that piss me off. I cant believe that Kawasaki seals are any different than the Bike Master seals. I have read from some of you guys who swear by OE seals. I cant understand why my left seal is perfect but the right is leaking since after the second or third week i put it in?????
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 09:26 - 24 Jul 2009 09:26
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I cant believe that Kawasaki seals are any different than the Bike Master seals
Believe it. The BikeMaster stuff is probably made in China or Taiwan.

Z1Enterprises sells K&L parts which are made in Japan & oem quality.
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 09:56
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Only use seals OE branded fork seals. Leak Proof brand, means they will leak. I've never had an issue with OE seals, so why switch? Sure you can save a few dollars, but you'll be changing them often.
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 10:02
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Am I reading Otakar's post correctly? It doesn't matter whether he uses Kawasaki seals or Bike Master seals, they both leak? And it is the right seal that always leaks?
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 11:19
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Mcdroid wrote:
Am I reading Otakar's post correctly? It doesn't matter whether he uses Kawasaki seals or Bike Master seals, they both leak? And it is the right seal that always leaks?

NO. I replaced the seals a year ago and they were aftermarket. I never put in OE seals. OE seals are 8x of what aftermarket seals are. OE are $12 ea and AM are $7 for the pair.
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78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 14:01
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If you got a year out of the aftermarket ones you did pretty good. They never work. You'd think a seal would not be a delicate item needing to purchased through Kawasaki, but it is. I see several Yamaha's use the same size seal, but Yamaha is near twice the cost of original Kawasaki.
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 14:43
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K&L parts are made in Japan & oem quality.

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Re: New leaky fork seals.

24 Jul 2009 17:57 - 24 Jul 2009 18:05
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I ordered two sets one from BikeBandit and one from Z1 The ons I installed were a set of British seals made by Pyramid-Parts those are the ons which are leaking. Or at least one is. I also ordered new front springs from Progressive. These should be a bit lighter at the very beginning but much stiffer toward the end. Also they come with preload spacers to make them as stiff as you want.
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76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
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78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
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81 Scratch built GPz1150R
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

27 Jul 2009 12:30
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Got the first set of fork seals today. they came from Z1. They are made by K&S and are made in Formosa (:P Let you figure that one out) First thing I noticed was that the rubber was quite a bit stiffer on these than on the "Pyramid" ones from england.
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76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
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Re: New leaky fork seals.

27 Jul 2009 13:06
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Gee. It seems like Z1 no longer has the K&L seals. dang.

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Re: New leaky fork seals.

19 Aug 2009 08:49
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I contacted Z1 this week. They can get OEM or K&L fork seals.

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Re: New leaky fork seals.

19 Aug 2009 10:02
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have you taken a micrometer to the seal area of your leaky fork to check the amount of wear on it? after all you are dealing with a basic hydrulic cylinder.
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