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27 Mar 2009 21:07 #275959 by shadow44
need a little help tweaking my kz900 was created by shadow44
B) Who is the guru for the 76 kz900?


as you can see, I have put many hours into this machine. All is starting to pay off, I had her out for a test run yesterday. Oh Yea! She runs good and strong. just a few bugs to work out, that I need a little help with.


1. front brakes. I rebuilt the master cyl, and caliper, with new parts. seemed fine till a road test. brakes fine, but does not let all the pressure back off the caliper. lets off most, but not all. so as it rubs it creats friction, gets hot swells up get tighter, swells more.... you get the idea. I can loosen the bleeder and relieve it, but the first time I use it, its like it keeps a little pressure off every use and builds up. Any ideas?

2. I rebuilt the carbs. COMPLETLY. all new parts, except for those pesky throttle shaft grommets you cant get. I cant get it to idle smooth below 1200. I do not have sync. gague, but am good going by ear. am I not getting it right, or is it probley those grommets leaking air around the throttle shaft, causing it not to idle below 1200?

3. when I took it apart I noticed a cut in the center stand foot, where the chain had rubbed. I figured it had been run loose, no big deal. When I got it out for its first test run the chain rubbed... I placed a nickle between the stand and the bump stop and it was just about right. Short of taking it off and welding a spacer to it, is there anything I am missing? what makes them start rubbing if the chain is tight?

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27 Mar 2009 21:22 #275961 by trianglelaguna
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i am no guru but can do set up on a 76 for handeling and have got mine where you can really cook on it.....there are two caliper bolts that hold the brake calipers piston side and other side together and slide back and forth on the carrier take the brake caliper off and grease/lube the two bolts..also make sure that the piston that pushes the active pad of the two pads can retract back and is not impeeded by any dirt build up that got stuck when the old pads got thin and the piston travelled farther out...a c-clamp will help push the piston in with some spray cleaner.....do a search for centerstand loose..i just addressed this,,,,,good luck...up date your signiture with make and model and mods to the bikes,,,address helps folks too to direct your answers good luck....peace craigshadow44 wrote:

B) Who is the guru for the 76 kz900?



as you can see, I have put many hours into this machine. All is starting to pay off, I had her out for a test run yesterday. Oh Yea! She runs good and strong. just a few bugs to work out, that I need a little help with.


1. front brakes. I rebuilt the master cyl, and caliper, with new parts. seemed fine till a road test. brakes fine, but does not let all the pressure back off the caliper. lets off most, but not all. so as it rubs it creats friction, gets hot swells up get tighter, swells more.... you get the idea. I can loosen the bleeder and relieve it, but the first time I use it, its like it keeps a little pressure off every use and builds up. Any ideas?

2. I rebuilt the carbs. COMPLETLY. all new parts, except for those pesky throttle shaft grommets you cant get. I cant get it to idle smooth below 1200. I do not have sync. gague, but am good going by ear. am I not getting it right, or is it probley those grommets leaking air around the throttle shaft, causing it not to idle below 1200?

3. when I took it apart I noticed a cut in the center stand foot, where the chain had rubbed. I figured it had been run loose, no big deal. When I got it out for its first test run the chain rubbed... I placed a nickle between the stand and the bump stop and it was just about right. Short of taking it off and welding a spacer to it, is there anything I am missing? what makes them start rubbing if the chain is tight?


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27 Mar 2009 21:23 #275962 by MFolks
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When I removed my 4 into 2 stock exhaust system and installed the Kerker I have now, I had the same problem on my 82 GPZ1100 B2.

I put the bike on the side stand,figured out where to do it,drilled and tapped a 1/4-28 bolt to act as an up stop for the center stand. I used a thin jam nut so the up stop bolt will stay in place.

To improve your combustion efficiency you might consider doing the "Wired George" ignition relay bypass modification.

His website www.wgcarbs.com list parts and has a wiring diagram to follow. For about $20 and an hours time your bike will run so much better. The older Z's and KZ's wiring developes corrosion dropping the input voltage to the ignition coils reducing output voltage and weak spark.

The following I got from his website.


Re-powering Ignition Coils To Get Full Power
By Wired George (his website is www.wgcarbs.com )
Condition/Symptoms:

A problem common to MOST vintage motorcycles is often characterized by hard starting, rough running, backfiring, and sooty or fouled spark plugs.

What most people recommend?
Since the plugs are sooty or fouled, the air/fuel mixture is often singled out as the culprit, in other words, your carburetors' air/fuel mixture is too rich. You will be told to use smaller main jets, move the clips on your jet needles up or fiddle with your mixture screw or pilot screws. These recommendations MAY lessen the plug fouling and other symptoms but may also have no effect, other than cause tuning problems which ultimately only make matters worse.

OK, have you tried these things to fix the "rich" problem?:
· cleaned air filter or pods
· rebuilt carburetors and know that their innards are clean and properly jetted
· know there is no crud in the bowls or being passed from the tank
· carburetors have correct float levels

If you have checked these things and the problem with sooty or fouled plugs is still there, then your problem may NOT be carburetor induced! Consider that three things are necessary for complete combustion.

correct air/fuel mixture
good compression

good spark
If you are confident your air filter(s) are clean, the carburetors are jetted appropriately, then ensure you have good compression by adjusting your valve clearances. Read the Valve Clearances article in our wg's Tech Stuff Index area. Last, if your ignition components to include, points/condensors, OEM ignitor/pickup coils, plugs, plug wires/caps or coils are old and their condition is suspect, replace them. There are troubleshooting procedures outlined in a Clymer manual or Kawasaki Factory Service Manual which give step-by-step procedures for checking these components functionality.

WHY DO I HAVE A WEAK SPARK WITH GOOD IGNITION COMPONENTS?
The voltage feeding your ignition coils is insufficient to cause the coils to fire a strong spark! This problem is common to almost 100 percent of all vintage motorcycles... Check it out yourself!

Get a multi meter and put the POSITIVE probe on the coil power wire. This wire is attached to a lug on your coil and will be either yellow/red, pink or red (depending on Kawasaki model). Put the NEGATIVE probe on a frame or engine ground. Put the multi meter in VDC scale. Turn the key on with the kill switch in the RUN position. You do not have to start the bike. If you get less than 12 VDC, your coils are being robbed of power. Why? Old wiring, connectors and switches!

The issue is that YOU HAVE A WEAK SPARK due to poor coil voltage and no amount of tuning will rid you of the symptoms or soot/plug fouling. We suggest you power the coils using a separate circuit via a standard automotive relay. Bosch and other electrical component manufacturers produce relays that will work for this application. Relays can be purchased at most auto parts stores and places that install automotive stereos and alarms. You can also purchase relays and pigtails on the web from places like Parts-Express .

These relays have STANDARDIZED number coded connectors. A drawing is supplied at the top of this article which shows how to wire the relay into your bike. After rewiring, your coils will fire a spark as never before. The soot and rough running will be over when you have made this simple modification. The relay can be mounted to the motorcycle frame or battery box.

To perform this modification, buy the following:
12 gauge wire
18-16 gauge wire
soldering iron and light duty rosin core solder
heat shrink wrap (3/16”)
standard automotive relay (four or five pin)
standard relay pigtail
inline fuse holder rated for 30A
pack of 10A (inline type) fuses
press-in male connector (see the dual-outlet coil connector over your valve cover)
crimp on female lug connectors for 18A wire and 12A wire
cable ties
Need help finding a relay and pigtail? The relay is at the top of the page and a corresponding pigtail is linked towards the bottom... See this link:

www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=330-070
Installation Steps:

NOTE: first disconnect your battery!

The relay can be attached to a nut/bolt on your battery box under your seat. The relay has male connectors. While it is possible to use crimp on female connectors attached to the relay male connectors, this type installation WILL oxidize quickly and fail. We suggest using a standard relay pigtail which plugs onto the relay and has 5 wires coming off it that correspond to the connectors on the relay. Connect the relay to the motorcycle and then solder wires to the pigtail. Once all connections to the pigtail are complete, plug the pigtail onto the relay.

Relay Ground Connection #85
Solder / shrink wrap one end of a 18 -16 gauge wire to connect to relay lug # 85 wire on the relay pigtail. Use a piece of wire sufficiently long so that it can be connected to the motorcycle’s main engine ground point. Find this location by tracing the negative battery terminal wire to where it is secured either on the frame or engine. To properly solder a wire to wire connection, join the wires by twisting them together. Warm the joined wire ends with a soldering iron and hold solder on top of these wires until this solder melts and permeates the joined ends; that is, it penetrates through the wires. Once the connection is soldered and cools, pull a piece of shrink wrap over it and melt the shrink wrap with a lighter or heat gun. Install a crimp on “eye” type connector (it should be blue) on the end to be connected to the ground. Remove the bolt securing the main engine ground wire and install the relay wire connector and main ground wire and retighten the bolt. This is the relay GROUND!

Power to Relay #30
Solder / heat shrink one end of a 12 gauge wire to connect to relay #30 pigtail wire. Put about 1 inch of heat shrink onto the free end of the wire and move it towards the relay and out of the way for now. Cut the wire on the inline fuse to make two ends. Put a 10A fuse in the holder and reconnect. Solder the inline fuse end to the 12 gauge wire connected to the relay pigtail. Strip a bit of insulation from the other end of the fuse holder wire and install an “eye” type connector (should be yellow). Loosen the nut that retains the positive battery connection on the starter solenoid and place eye connector end of the wire onto the stud where the nut was removed from and replace the nut and retighten. This is the relay POSITIVE 12 VDC battery connection.

Relay Trigger #86
Find the yellow/red wire that had previously been used to power the coils. It comes out of the wiring harness above the valve cover. This wire terminates in a dual outlet female connector. From this connector, voltage connections are made to both ignition coils. Remove these connections and discard them. Solder / shrink wrap a wire coming from the #86 relay pigtail sufficiently long to reach this connector. Install the press-in male connector and plug the connector into the dual outlet connector coming off the wiring harness above the valve cover. This is the relay TRIGGER. Note that the trigger wire is controlled by the motorcycle kill switch which must be in the ON position for the relay to function.

Power Wires to Coils #87
The last piece to be fabricated is the positive wiring to the coils. From the relay pigtail #87, solder / shrink wrap a length of 18 ga. wire sufficiently long to reach the rear of the coils. At this point, solder / shrink wrap two wires that will each go to the front of one of the coils forming a “Y”. Install a blue crimp-on “eye” type connector onto each leg of the “Y” and install these connectors onto one of the two small lugs on each of the coils. Note that the OTHER wire on each coil will be either black or green. Leave these wires alone. These are the ignition wires. The coil’s voltage HOT WIRE is now complete.

Dyna S User Note!

If you are using a Dyna S ignition, there will be a “positive” wire coming up from the ignition (located under the points cover) that needs to be connected to a power source. It is a red wire. This wire can be spliced into the HOT WIRE “Y” from the #87 connector fabricated in the last step. Solder it into the “Y” and shrink wrap. There are ignition wires coming from your electronic ignition pickup coils or Dyna S ignition (or points) . These will not be modified.

You are done at this point but wire ties "pretty up" the installation and ensure no wires drop down and lie atop the valve cover or engine. After the addition of the relay, when you start the engine, with the kill switch in the “ON” position, your coils will be powered by the new circuit you added and your spark will be much, much stronger. Say goodbye to constantly cleaning your spark plugs and tinkering with your jetting! The pigtail is beneath and the relay plugs into the pigtail which has wires coming off, making it suitable for soldering connecting wires.

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28 Mar 2009 02:47 #276004 by The Gringo
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Shadow, I think I came up with a solution for your carb grommets. See the thread you started on the other forum. I don't think those missing grommets would make any difference on your idle they are there mainly to keep the dirt out. I think once you put a set of gauges on the carbs and sync them right it will be fine. 1200 rpm isn't that much over where they should be.

Andy
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28 Mar 2009 07:22 #276033 by TexasKZ
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One more thing to check on the brakes. There is an itty-bitty hole in the bore of the master cylinder that is supposed to allow fluid to return to the master cylinder and reservoir. A blocked passage will create the problem you are having.

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28 Mar 2009 07:25 #276034 by timebomb33
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if you think you can tune by ear try it and then hook up a set sync gauges and you will not say you can tune by ear anymore the differrance is amazing you wont believe how a small subtile change can make such a huge differance.

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