Vance and Hines header question/s

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14 Aug 2008 09:15 #231976 by riverroad
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I ran into a guy that has three sets of headers for sale.
One of them he says is a chrome Vance and Hines, new in the box. I'm going to look at them this afternoon.
I got to looking at this site: www.motorcycleproshop.com/exhausts/vancehines/vhkaw.asp
and there seems to be a difference for LTD models. Anybody know why some of them won't fit a 1980 1000LTD?

I already know I don't want the Pro Pipe, because it requires relocation of the controls and foot pegs.

Think it's about time I gave up the old tractor muffler.

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14 Aug 2008 09:47 #231986 by Mcdroid
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There should be no difference (w/respect to fit) between the 1977-80 A (standard) and B (LTD) models. Indeed, the is no difference noted for two other makers of headers for the KZ1000A/B models, e.g. MAC and Kerker. I have one of those $299 pipes on an KZ1000A model and there is no reason it won't fit on an LTD:huh: :dry:

Michael
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14 Aug 2008 10:30 #231996 by riverroad
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At first he said it was a chrome Kerker, new in the box, for $200, and my heart skipped a beat. But later he said he was mistaken and that it was a V&H. Damn.
Thanks Mcdroid. I can't think of a reasom why it wouldn't fit either, outside maybe the mounting tab might be in a different location. But that's not a problem to me. I can fab just about anything bracket wise.
But he wants $200 for the new in the box V&H, and he has two used ones, one black header and one chrome header for $150.
Definately worth driving down into the city to look at.

Happen to know what I'd have to change brake and foot peg wise, if it turns out to be a drag pipe? And would a drag pipe look funny on a stock swingarmed bike?

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14 Aug 2008 10:56 #232004 by Mcdroid
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I suspect that the 'drag' pipes are the sidewinder-style pipes and are designed for bikes that have been lengthened and lowered for traction. The pipe runs along the right side of the bike where the right footpeg and brake pedal mount...those have to be relocated...in other words, you'd have to fabricate another mount for the peg and do the same for the pedal....some folks like the looks of the sidewinder-style pipes on street bikes...I do not...the bike appears unbalanced to my eye:) . To each his own.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

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1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
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14 Aug 2008 11:19 #232010 by riverroad
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Thanks Mcdroid. Not a big fan of that style myself. If that's what they turn out to be, I think I'll pass.
They look cool on drag style bikes, but that's just not what I want for my bike.

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14 Aug 2008 16:57 #232048 by racer54
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Generally, the differences between the pipes is just the way it mounts in the rear. Different model bikes take different mounting hardware. Pipes are the same.

1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110

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14 Aug 2008 19:08 #232066 by 79MKII
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The V&H headers ARE different for the LTD and A models. The mounting bracket welded to the megaphone is different. They custom fit their pipes instead of including several brackets for mounting like many other makes. I'm guessing the headpipes are the same, but might exit at a different point, not sure. Either way, I'm sure you can get them to work since the engines are identical.

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Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250

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15 Aug 2008 04:21 #232114 by riverroad
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Well I went down there and found out that the 'new in the box' ones were indeed Sidewinder pipes. Can't use 'em.
The other two pipes were Kerkers, but one was black and dented up and the other one was burnt chrome and dented up.
Think I'll just save my pennies and get a new chrome Kerker.
Wasn't a total wash though. He had an old 900 parts bike that had a couple 3 ohm Dyna coils, and I picked them up for thirty bucks.

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