New tire flat four times.

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13 Aug 2008 14:19 - 13 Aug 2008 14:22 #231839 by Qdude
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I decided to get new tires. I had been having NO air problems at all.

The rear tire rim clamp had rusted so during the switch, they removed it and added weights to compensate. Seemed that sand had entered and caused a the first flat where the bolt went through the rim at about three weeks.

I covered that bolt hole with a plastic circle cut from a plastic milk jug which lasted about four more weeks. Flat number two was fixed by the shop so I dont know where the puncture occurred.

Flat number three occurred after another four weeks. I requested that the shop look for problems. No saved tube.

Flat number four was the next day. No saved tube. (why cant they save the friggin tube?)

The shop that did the work cant figure out what is wrong. And they apparently cant get the tube out without destroying it (so that I can discover just where the puncture is occurring).

I ran a piece of cloth through the tire looking for nails etc. and of course the shop has as well (they are doing the fixes for free now and I am sure they would rather not)

Is it likely that I have damaged the rim somehow that is causing the punctures? Perhaps while pulling the rubber off?

Is there a wide band of rubber that wraps the wheel under the tube?

Has anyone else had persistent puncture problems?

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13 Aug 2008 14:43 #231853 by Patton
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Qdude wrote:

... Is there a wide band of rubber that wraps the wheel under the tube?...


Would plug the now unused hole and also use a rim strip.



Good Luck! :)

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13 Aug 2008 15:35 #231871 by BSKZ650
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rim strip. yes, need to put something in the hole where the clamp was. also are they using a heavy duty tube when the replace it? and the last thought, have them replace the tire it may have something strange going on with the tire that dosent show up until it has air in it.

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13 Aug 2008 16:06 #231876 by MFolks
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Some people put two layers of duct tape in place of the rubber rim strip.

Take an X-acto knife after taping and cut a hole for the valve stem. Try switching to a heavier or thicker inner tube or a different brand if you can.

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13 Aug 2008 18:49 #231892 by 650ed
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In addition to the rubber wheel band I would suggest you find another shop and replace the rim locks then see if the problems persists. The shop may be pinching the tube when installing it and creating a small hole. I say this because if they cannot remove the tube without destroying it they are either incompetent or they are trying to hide their error. Anyone should be able to carefully remove the tire without wrecking the tube. Ed

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14 Aug 2008 08:05 - 14 Aug 2008 08:08 #231965 by Qdude
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Thanks all!

Good suggestions.

Oh and I bought a new rim lock and had the shop install it at the third flat.

77 KZ 650 C1.
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Crashed-Repaired, Pods, Kerker pipe, re-wired core bundle, lamp upgraded, homemade rectifier, solid state regulator , Dyna-s ignition, repainted, slightly modified, year-round commuter
Honda Metro 85 mpg Scooter. Dont laugh I will throw it at you
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15 Aug 2008 08:39 #232170 by coppertales
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I think you have a bunch of morons at the shop that is working on your tire. I can see no reason not to be able to pull a tube out of a tire. I have done quite a few in my time. I bet they are pinching the tube. They need to put a little air in the tube before mounting the tire to keep it is place so it does not get pinched. Changing a tire/tube is not that hard to do.....chris3

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15 Aug 2008 13:44 #232216 by bountyhunter
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Qdude wrote:


The shop that did the work cant figure out what is wrong. And they apparently cant get the tube out without destroying it (so that I can discover just where the puncture is occurring).

Run from those bozos. They don't have the skill or tools to do what they are trying to do. I have tubes that have been in, out, and back in at least four times on my tire.

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15 Aug 2008 16:01 #232236 by Locozuna
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I see stupid people...........

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