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15 Apr 2008 12:07 #206687 by mcbartell
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I Recently bought a pair of Cheng Shin Baracuda tires for my 81 KZ750. When I brought them in to get them mounted they had alot of touble beading the rear tire. Is there a problem with my tire or possibly the rim? They inflated them to 90 psi and still no luck with sealing the bead.


1976 KZ900
1981 KZ810 Four (sold)
1972 H1 Triple (sold)
1984 XS850 Special
1982 XS400 (Sold)
1984 HD Low Rider
1997 Tahoe (Toy Hauler) sold :(
2000 Bonneville SSEI

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15 Apr 2008 12:42 - 15 Apr 2008 12:44 #206691 by steell
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90 psi?? They have more guts than I do :woohoo:

Probably corrosion, it's a good idea to clean the bead area of a rim before installing the tire.

I assume we are talking tubeless?

KD9JUR
Last edit: 15 Apr 2008 12:44 by steell.

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15 Apr 2008 13:32 #206704 by bountyhunter
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I think I might just stick a tube in at and buy some peace of mind for about $8. My wife had a car tire with a flaky bead and it used to go flat slowly depending on which part of the tire it was parked on (would stress the bead). Not worth the misery that sucker inflicted on me. We finally just put a tube in it.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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15 Apr 2008 17:26 #206758 by mcbartell
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I got pretty scared when I walked into the shop and they had 60 psi on it. I was nearly shittin my self when I saw that they brought it up to 90! Is a tube really the way to go on a Tubeless rim and tire? I thought i read that you can't do that.


1976 KZ900
1981 KZ810 Four (sold)
1972 H1 Triple (sold)
1984 XS850 Special
1982 XS400 (Sold)
1984 HD Low Rider
1997 Tahoe (Toy Hauler) sold :(
2000 Bonneville SSEI

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16 Apr 2008 04:37 - 16 Apr 2008 04:39 #206830 by steell
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Is a tube really the way to go on a Tubeless rim and tire? I thought i read that you can't do that.


If you did, then whoever wrote it was mistaken, you can use a tube in a tubeless combo, but you should not mount a tire tubeless on a tube type rim.

Those dummies that mounted it should have taken it apart and investigated "why" it wouldn't seat, then either fixed the problem or left it unmounted and told you what you needed to fix the problem.

KD9JUR
Last edit: 16 Apr 2008 04:39 by steell.

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16 Apr 2008 05:39 #206837 by Mcdroid
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I just had a Barracuda mounted on a rear rim of my KZ1100B2...what they pulled off was a tubeless tire with a tube mounted (I had never noticed the weird combo and I don't know why the PO did that because the Barracuda beaded fine). The bad thing being, when you run a tube in a tubeless rim, you lose the tire valve...luckily I had an extra at home and was able to sprint home and get it...

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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19 Apr 2008 04:29 - 19 Apr 2008 04:31 #207527 by 76 LTD
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could be a number of things like corrosion on rim. bits of rubber or dirt from old tire.take the tire back off and inspect the bead area of wheel use a fine wire brush or some 400 grit sand paper to clean it up.also use plenty of lube when mounting the tire as it makes it slip over the bead easier.DONT use soapy water as this will lead to corrosion eventually i use chassis lube(grease)or ATF just a small amount around the bead area of tire.if it still leaks i guess your gonna hafta use a tube but that should be the LAST resort.also check the bead area of tire for tears or imperfections.it is fairly easy to damage with tire tools or screwdrivers.
Last edit: 19 Apr 2008 04:31 by 76 LTD.

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