Fork seal agony

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26 Sep 2007 11:10 #172961 by Wilde
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Hi,

I am in the process of changing fork seals and have problems. No problems in disassembling the forks. But the seal sat tight as a x%&¤## in a &%#%¤#. Finally I got one out and it looks like it was glued? to the fork. Of course the aluminium area where the new seal should go does not look perfect. I also managed to scratch it.:angry:

So I am thinking of mildly dremeling the surface as smooth as possible. And surely the seals are not to be glued or siliconed in there? I think the prevous owner had a problem and tried to use silicone or similar to make them stop leaking.

Any advice very welcome

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26 Sep 2007 12:13 #172976 by OKC_Kent
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Don't glue or silicone fork seals, they shouldn't need them.

I don't know if I would want to dremel the area the seal fits into, might make more problems than it fixes...is this to remove the scratch? Depending on how big and bad it is, maybe fill the scratch with some JB Weld or similiar and smooth out while it's still workable? What kills a seal is the fork tube sliding inside up and down, when that tube has a nick it eats the seal up quick.

Oklahoma City, OK
78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles

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26 Sep 2007 12:18 #172978 by Wilde
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Yeah the idea was to remove the scratch, but I agree that it probably is better to try to fill it, it is not very deep. Or take a chance and leak test it after the new seal is there with some air. The tubes are not a problem. They are in very good shape.

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26 Sep 2007 12:20 - 03 Dec 2008 07:57 #172979 by JMKZHI
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26 Sep 2007 13:09 #172996 by RonKZ650
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I can't see anyone gluing in fork seals. Probably just corrosion. Don't worry about scratches. It's not going to leak from that unless they are 1/4" deep.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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26 Sep 2007 13:28 #173001 by Bluemeanie
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Don't know about what number, but use some very fine emery cloth and go over scratch lightly to make sure no raised metal! That will tear up a seal fast!

1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!

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26 Sep 2007 13:52 #173008 by Wilde
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Thanks all, I might be exaggerating, I did go over it with emery and it is now hard to feel, but it is visible. I´ll just put the new one in.

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26 Sep 2007 13:59 #173009 by Patton
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Here's the fork seal puller tool listed at Z1E

Z1E

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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26 Sep 2007 15:54 #173030 by OKC_Kent
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I greased up the outside of my fork seals and the inside of the lower tube, just a very thin film to help it seat.

Oklahoma City, OK
78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles

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28 Sep 2007 12:28 #173352 by Wilde
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So I did the second one today, heated the seal first and it came off so easy, no scratches or anything. In the process of stripping the lacquer off right now, new seals on their way. There was very little oil in the forks and what little there was was black and smelled like death. Hopefully it will be better now.

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30 Sep 2007 15:16 #173759 by Bearsden
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Speaking of fork seals... I'm looking for a complete rebuild kit, seals, springs, and all the joy that goes with it. I have a '79 KZ1000ST. Any help would be Awsome!

Thanks,

Bear

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30 Sep 2007 17:14 #173791 by OKC_Kent
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You can get fork seals from Z1Enterprises, or BikeBandit, or probably the pricy ones at a dealer. Those links are on the right side --->

For springs I think the better route is to look at Progressive suspension rather than buying originals at a Kaw dealer. But check BikeBandit too;
I don't know if Progressive will have springs for older bikes but it doesn't hurt to ask them if you don't see it.

Post edited by: OKC_Kent, at: 2007/09/30 20:20

Oklahoma City, OK
78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles

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